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Category:Jharkhand MLAs 2010–2014

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1) Not a valid range, and 2) hinders category navigation on all cats surrounding the redirect target, Category:Jharkhand MLAs 2009–2014.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  22:11, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:16th-century Flemish people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:29, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:16th-century Flemish people by occupation to Category:Habsburg Netherlands people by occupation
Nominator's rationale: Flemish was not a nationality Rathfelder (talk) 21:45, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sibling and child categories are not about artists though. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, that's one concern less. However, e.g.Andreas Vesalius is in this category tree, and he is commonly referred to as "Flemish"[1][2], as were the others in that category like Dodoens[3] or in other subcategories like Anna Bijns[4]. Fram (talk) 08:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is part of an exercise to sort out the confusions in Belgian/Flemish categories before 1830. Further ideas are welcome. Rathfelder (talk) 22:14, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure whether we are really going to sort out what "Flemish" means in this period. Dependent on context, it could mean just from the county of Flanders, or also from the duchy of Brabant, or from the entire Southern Netherlands including the Prince-Bishopric of Liege. I have the impression that the latter applies to "Flemish artists" but I am not sure. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, luckily we don't have to sort this out, we can go with what reliable sources use of course. If they discuss these people as being "Flemish", then it is perfectly appropriate to have a category for this and to put them in there. Fram (talk) 07:50, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Categorizing Early Modern people by the language that they spoke will become an OR nightmare. Note that even the County of Flanders (originally much bigger than the current two Belgian provinces) had French-speaking areas. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Anglican bishops in Ghana

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Bishops of Accra to Category:Anglican bishops of Accra
Rationale - both the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches have many dioceses in Ghana and there is a considerable overlap in the names (eg there are Category:Roman Catholic bishops of Ho, Category:Roman Catholic bishops of Cape Coast, Category:Roman Catholic bishops of Koforidua, Category:Roman Catholic bishops of Tamale). Moreover the corresponding dioceses are all of the form Anglican Diocese of Kumasi; see Category:Anglican dioceses in Ghana. Oculi (talk) 20:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Field hockey clubs in Poland

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Category:Field hockey clubs in Poland‎ to Category:Polish field hockey clubs Abcmaxx (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Refugees by name

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:36, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, we usually do not have "by name" categories for biographies. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:47, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from the Southern Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: rename the first one. The second one is covered in another discussion below. – Fayenatic London 10:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Book publishers (people) from the Southern Netherlands to Category:Book publishers (people) of the Spanish Netherlands
  • Propose renaming Category:18th-century painters from the Southern Netherlands to Category:Painters of the Austrian Netherlands
Nominator's rationale: 1713-1795 the area was called the Austrian Netherlands. Rathfelder (talk) 13:39, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Renaming to Southern Netherlands people (before 1830) is perhaps an option. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is a fair point, Habsburg, Spanish and Austrian Netherlands categories can still be have a Belgian category as their parent. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All the occupational categories will be under a Belgian category. Rathfelder (talk) 08:04, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Artists from the Southern Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename using "from" for artists, as this avoids ambiguity between the person's origin and the subject depicted. The first line therefore becomes Category:Artists from the Spanish Netherlands. – Fayenatic London 10:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Southern Netherlands was never a country in its own right. We dont have any other categories of People from the Southern Netherlands, and its hard to see this as creating anything other than confusion. Rathfelder (talk) 13:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I thought "of" indicated a country category, and "from" was used for towns and cities? Rathfelder (talk) 14:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Television series in Georgia (country)

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Georgia (country) television series‎. @Gonnym: you may now wish to address the sub-cats; the current decade categories seem to be aired-in-decade rather than the usual debut-in-decade. – Fayenatic London 20:44, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Television series in Georgia (country) to Category:Georgian (country) television series
Nominator's rationale: The current naming convention of Category:Television series by country is "Fooian television series" with this entry being the only one using a different style. This should either be Category:Georgia (country) television series‎ or Category:Georgian (country) television series‎ Gonnym (talk) 18:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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pre-1917 establishments in Latvia

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. ✗plicit 06:39, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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People of Jewish descent by religion

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:13, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:People of Jewish descent by religion
  • Propose deleting Category:Buddhists of Jewish descent
  • Propose deleting Category:Hindus of Jewish descent
  • Propose deleting Category:Muslims of Jewish descent
  • Propose deleting Category:Neopagans of Jewish descent
Nominator's rationale: delete as it is usually irrelevant when someone of a certain religion has (a few) ancestors of another religion. There are exceptions when it is relevant, for example with the Conversos in Spain who in the 16th century were not trusted to have truly converted from Judaism to Christianity. But a situation like that does not apply to the nominated categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree, if people converted themselves they should be in a convert category. But I assume that this is already the case so that manual action is not needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:15, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Medieval Flemish astronomers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete as anachronistic. While Flemish nowadays means Dutch-speaking Belgian, in the Middle Ages Flemish was simply someone from the county of Flanders (for whom we already have Category:People from the county of Flanders). There is no need to merge, both articles are already in an astronomer-by-century subcategory and in either a county of Flanders or a duchy of Brabant subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:53, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Categorizing Early Modern people by the language that they spoke will become an OR nightmare. In the Middle Ages it will be even worse. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:12th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Flanders

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The result of the discussion was: renamed; no consensus to merge. This close is no bar to a re-nomination, as this CFD looks rather confusing, and the nomination does not give a rationale for merging. – Fayenatic London 20:37, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent per actual category content. All 8 articles are about prince-bishops of Liege, so Flanders is quite a stretch. The category should also be re-parented to Category:Prince-Bishops of Liège instead of the current Flemish parent. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Very happy with this. As author shall I propose it be done speedily? Rathfelder (talk) 12:45, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think this is a mistake. Nobody argues they were subjects of Burgundy, not the least because the expansion of Burgundy took place some 200 years later than this category is about. The question is just whether HRE century categories should be diffused by bishopric. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:42, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Microaggression theory

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The result of the discussion was: merge (selectively as suggested). Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: selectively merge for three reasons, there is no article Microaggression theory (it is a redirect), it is a borderline SMALLCAT, and there is little coherence in the content of the category. Suggestion is to move two articles Microaggression and Micro-inequity to Category:Discrimination, then delete the category. The other two articles are already abundantly categorized, e.g. in Category:Xenophobia and Category:Racism in the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:18th-century Belgian people

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The result of the discussion was: merge and redirect, as the target category already exists. – Fayenatic London 07:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:18th-century Belgian people to Category:People of the Austrian Netherlands
Nominator's rationale: Belgium did not exist until 1830. Rathfelder (talk) 07:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this is the way forward, it should at least be Habsburg Netherlands instead of Hapsburg. But. While technically the Habsburgs were the rulers throughout the Early Modern period, the problem is that the term Habsburg Netherlands is not actually used in historiography of the 17th and 18th century. The term Habsburg Netherlands mainly refers to the gradual unification period and the short united period of the Low Lands. After the Dutch Republic stabilized as an independent country, the terms Spanish Netherlands and Austrian Netherlands were used. Or Southern Netherlands, but that was a bit broader in geography. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Animated films about death

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Created by a sockpuppet. An overwhelming majority of these films are not about death and just feature a death. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 03:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Objects presumed to be related with Adam and Eve

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Containing only two articles, this is a WP:SMALLCAT. It doesn't fit into any category trees except Category:Adam and Eve, so I suggest upmerging to there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic dioceses in the Pacific

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The nominated category is a subcategory of the target. These are mostly overlapping categories. Anything placed in one could legitimately be placed in the other. There is no scheme of the Catholic Church in the Pacific that the nominated category is a part of. It's all within Category:Catholic Church in Oceania. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Self-originated denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is essentially a "remainders" category for denominations that do not trace their authority to a 19th-century Latter Day Saint leader. With only one article and three redirects, WP:SMALLCAT may also be a consideration. I suggest upmerging. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Résumé frauds and controversies

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The result of the discussion was: selective merge and delete. The suggested Category:People using unaccredited degrees may prove a useful sibling to the current sub-cat Category:People who fabricated academic degrees. – Fayenatic London 11:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting or seriously reworking Category:Résumé frauds and controversies (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category is fundamentally overbroad; it is extremely problematic w/r/t WP:BLP to conflate "fraud" (a criminal offense and civil tort) with "controversy" (someone got mad on the Internet). Describing a living person as committing "fraud" absent an admission of fabrication, conviction or finding of civil liability is potentially libelous. Per WP:OPINIONCAT, that someone is merely accused of something is not a defining characteristic. This could possibly be reworked and renamed to include only people who have been convicted, found liable, or admitted to fraud. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 15:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:15, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • This sounds like a reasonable solution. So it is a selective merge and deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Philosophy of religion literature

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The result of the discussion was: do not merge, as the opposer's point about WP:SMALLCAT appears valid. However, these are a pointless layer within Category:Philosophy of religion literature; the respective contents are already directly within that category, so I will remove the nominated categories from it. – Fayenatic London 10:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article per category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Songs about funk

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are songs with "funk" in the title. I wouldn't say they are about funk. WP:NOTDEFINING. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 02:44, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People with insomnia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:People with insomnia
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NOT, WP:COP and WP:NONDEFINING (WP:TRIVIALCAT)
Chronic insomnia can be a serious medical condition but this tends to come up tangentially in articles. The Button King made buttons when he couldn't sleep, Tallulah Bankhead got hooked on sleeping pills she took for insomnia, while the reason for including Ibn al-Khatib is unclear. These people do not seem defined by this medical condition and Wikipedia is not a medical history of every diseases or ailment of notable people. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Odd Fellows by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Odd Fellows
  • Propose Deleting Category:Odd Fellows by nationality
  • Propose Deleting Category:American Odd Fellows
  • Propose Deleting Category:British Odd Fellows
  • Propose Deleting Category:New Zealand Odd Fellows‎
  • Propose Deleting Category:Norwegian Odd Fellows
  • Propose Deleting Category:Swedish Odd Fellows
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TRIVIALCAT (and WP:C2F for the parent category)
I certainly can't claim WP:SMALLCAT here because the American branch currently has 600,000 members and the British branch was founded in 1798 so there have been many more members total. Maybe King George IV, President Ulysses S. Grant, and Prime Minister Winston Churchill were members but their articles don't even mention it. And, even for articles that do mention, the passing references to multiple organizations seem nondefining for Joseph Braithwaite (mayor), Elijah A. Briggs, and Earl Warren. Simply being a member of a membership organization is not defining.
The parent category only has one eponymous article, Odd Fellows, which is already under Category:Odd Fellowship. In case another editor wants to start a list, I copied the current category contents right here so no work is lost. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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