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[w]ithin Category:Wikipedians by ethnicity and nationality, but instead have crept into their own tree. (This nomination only includes subcategories of the form "Fooian ancestry Wikipedians" or "Wikipedians of Fooian descent", there's a bunch of other stuff in this tree, some of which doesn't belong there in the first place and others of which will be left to a separate discussion) * Pppery * it has begun... 15:42, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
[you] believe this category contributes to collaboration, whereas Black Falcon clearly explained why they do not back in 2008 and you have not refuted his argument at all (and thus, by extension, not refuted mine). And this nomination is not at all harassment; I've been slowly cleaning up the user category system since August 2020, regardless of who created them. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
think these are legitimate Wikipedia user collaboration categories, because they didn't deliberately add themselves to the category in the first place, but instead added a userbox which you made that happens to populate this category. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
This is in neither the explicitly-listed allowed categories nor the explicitly-listed disallowed categories, so it falls to us to interpret the underlying principle of [...] a user category is appropriate if it has the capacity to facilitate coordination and collaboration between users for the improvement of the encyclopedia
. You still have not made any attempt to refute the argument (originally presented at the April 2008 UCFD) that these categories do not facilitate encyclopedic collaboration, since they do not reflect any encyclopedically-relevant ability, activity, interest, knowledge, or skill.
* Pppery * it has begun... 23:11, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
[u]sers of common ancestry can collaborate on the region of their ancestry and their ethnic group, whereas the April 2008 nomination, quoting an earlier discussion in 2007, did refute that argument, saying that
[j]ust because someone is of a specific ancestry does not mean they can reasonably be expected to collaborate on topics relating to their ancestry. ... You can choose your interests, but you can't choose your ancestry* Pppery * it has begun... 15:04, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
self-tagging, but instead
to aid in facilitating coordination and collaboration between users for the improvement and development of the encyclopedia, per Wikipedia:User categories. In short, in order to satisfy me, one needs to make some attempt to refute the argument originally raised at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/User/Archive/April 2008#Wikipedians by ancestry. I've instead seen a series of bare assertions of utility, borderline personal attacks, and blatant contradictions of guidelines.
If these categories get re-created, then I will be around to tag the recreations with ((db-g4)) (I'm not bluffing here, I do actually look at all newly-created user categories and have G4-ed several of them). * Pppery * it has begun... 14:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
allow[ed] to categories themselves as they like, or otherwise I would not have been able to nominate dozens of user categories over the past few months and have almost all of them deleted. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)