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Category:Salitas FC

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The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains a players category and the main article, which are now interlinked directly. – Fayenatic London 21:13, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 10:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conservative Party Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (etc.)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 19:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That there's only one PM at a time per country doesn't apply since these categories are repositories of all past and current prime ministers (Theresa May wasn't uncategorized from Category:Conservative Party Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom upon Boris Johnson replacing her). Plus, the manual of style clearly shows that plurals must (almost) always be lowercase. --Woko Sapien (talk) 19:57, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Murdered Russian Americans

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Overcategorization#Trivial_characteristics_or_intersection and WP:EGRS, this category represents "characteristics that are unrelated or wholly peripheral to the topic's notability." User:Namiba 19:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Football (soccer) in Niue

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 19#Category:Football (soccer) in Niue

Category:19th-century Prime Ministers of Nepal (etc.)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:55, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Except these categories use "Prime Ministers" (plural), which the manual of style clearly shows must be lowercase. --Woko Sapien (talk) 19:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Low-power FM radio stations

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Low-power FM radio stations in the United States. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 09:54, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No foreign stations on list; consistent with proposed renaming of LPTV category. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:21, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support as more explanatory. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The main issue is that "low-power FM" is a distinct radio service (with separate rules) only in the United States. Other countries have community radio classifications, but this is different. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:41, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Children of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (etc.)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. There isn't particularly strong support for deletion, so defaulting to rename as nominated. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I would think deletion would be better as clearly not defining to the subject. MilborneOne (talk) 21:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You're correct about "Prime Minister", but these categories use "Prime Ministers". The manual of style clearly shows that plurals must (almost) always be lowercase. --Woko Sapien (talk) 19:52, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Digital low-power television stations

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Low-power television stations in the United States. bibliomaniac15 05:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current category is redundant in a US context after all remaining analog TV stations (with 15 remote exceptions in Alaska) were shut down on July 13. It should either be converted to a category for LPTVs (with stations that failed to transition removed) or deleted as redundant if such a category is not desired. Changing the scope to US and removing CFTV-DT and CHMG-DT will create a parallel to Category:Low-power FM radio stations. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:47, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support; then sort into state sub-categories like in the LPFM category ("Low-power television stations in Alabama", "Low-power television stations in Alaska", etc.) Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also a note: 3,286 of the 4,167 pages in the category are redirects, so there would be fewer than 1,000 pages were these to be removed from the cat. There are likely also some pages that would be added throughout. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:40, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman bishops

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Bishops in the Roman Empire. bibliomaniac15 05:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman bishops to Category:Bishops in the Roman Empire by century
Nominator's rationale: They were not all Roman citizens or Roman nationals. But they did serve their episcopacy in the Roman Empire (as opposed to the Persian Empire for example). Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:30, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I struck support by century. Reconsidering this, it would not make sense to have a "by century" category without a top Category:Roman bishops and two category layers would be unneeded here. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1st-century bishops in Greece

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:1st-century bishops in Roman Achaea. bibliomaniac15 05:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There was no Greece in the 1st century. All the current occupants of the category are now in the Roman province of Achaea. Others (those in Macedonia etc) I have distributed to Category:1st-century bishops in the Roman Empire. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:06, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support this. Rathfelder (talk) 16:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite the same issue. This nom is specifically about in Greece whereas the main tree is Greek. So one might be Greek but not notable as working in Greece. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Technically true, but in practice it will not make a lot of difference. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The question really is, would Greece mean anything at all in the Roman period? There had never been a Greek country, only a Greek civilization. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Neighborhoods in Kathmandu

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Neighborhoods in Kathmandu to Category:Neighbourhoods in Kathmandu, keep Category:Neighbourhoods in Pokhara (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not an expert on whether Nepalese categories are expected to follow British or American spelling conventions for the word "neighbo(u)rhood", so I've listed both of the possibilities here, but we can't have Kathmandu using one spelling with Pokhara at the other — either way, they need to both be at the same spelling, so one or the other of these has to be renamed for consistency. Bearcat (talk) 15:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sechelt, British Columbia

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Sechelt. bibliomaniac15 05:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a municipality without the volume of spinoff content necessary to warrant an eponymous category. Other than the head article itself, the only other thing here is one school, which is not sufficient. Bearcat (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Some of your choices of how to populate it were bad ones, including an individual person who happened to live there for a couple of years but wasn't defined by that fact (and people never belong in "City" categories for any place that doesn't have a "People from City" subcategory anyway, so even if he'd been born in Sechelt he still wouldn't belong in this category), a radio station whose community of license is Gibsons and thus isn't defined by Sechelt, a company not based in Sechelt that happens to have previously acquired a defunct company that was based in Sechelt, and a university that has a satellite campus in Sechelt but whose main campus is in North Van (and thus is defined only by North Van, and not by every location where there's a satellite campus that doesn't have its own separate article from the parent institution). There isn't a particularly strong basis for having to keep this at all if you're having to clutch at that many straws to get it to any significant size. Bearcat (talk) 15:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thise were just from the first 50 articles that mentioned Sechelt, out of round 1200, and I disagree with some of your comments - a radio station whose main studio is in Sechelt, for example - and this is the first time I've ever heard a rule about people not going into a place category if there isn't a "people from place" subcategory. In any case there are now eight articles in the category, which is more than enough to justify keeping it. Grutness...wha? 23:45, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The physical location of a radio studio is not a defining characteristic of a radio station — radio stations are defined and categorized by their legal community of license, which does not actually have to be the same place as the physical location of the studio where the hosts actually sit but is still a more important characteristic than the latter regardless. Bearcat (talk) 16:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Spouses of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (etc.)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 13:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The manual of style clearly states "Offices, titles, and positions such as president, king, emperor, grand duke, lord mayor, pope, bishop, abbot, prime minister, chief financial officer, and executive director are common nouns and therefore should be in lower case when used generically." When these positions are written in the plural (as they are in the these categories) they are being used generically, and therefore cannot be referring to any one specific individual.--Woko Sapien (talk) 19:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hinduism and atheism

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The result of the discussion was: merge. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently one article. A dual merge is not needed, the article is also in another subcategory of Category:Religion and atheism. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Countries that end in stan

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The result of the discussion was: has already been deleted (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 15:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Overcategorization --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 00:58, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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