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Category:Converts to Roman Catholicism from Evangelicalism

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Converts to Catholicism from Evangelicalism. ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC) closure reverted. Unbeknownst to me, this was simultaneously listed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 15#Category:Converts to Roman Catholicism from Evangelicalism, where the discussion is leading to a very different result. ℯxplicit 23:54, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per Category:Catholic Church, ultimately per Catholic Church, as well as Category:Evangelicalism - per Evangelicalism. Chicbyaccident (talk) 12:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Catholicism

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 20#Category:Catholicism. ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per main article, further supported by that actual Catholicism article redirects to Catholicity. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:52, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Have you looked at the contents? Category:Catholicism includes many of the non-Roman catholic entities you have mentioned. We have Category:Catholic Church for the Roman part and another word is required to include the whole catholic church (small c). Oculi (talk) 22:10, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have not seen the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Oriental Orthodox Church, the Assyrian Church of the East, Lutheranism or broad Anglicanism. Thee is just one particular part of Anglicanism that quite strongly identifies with Catholicism (not Catholicity). Marcocapelle (talk) 03:45, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to the comment of Oculi, please note Category:Independent Catholicism, and Category:Anglo-Catholicism. Everything is alright. Chicbyaccident (talk) 12:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I had noticed Category:Independent Catholic denominations indeed. The reason I did not explicitly mentioned this category was that I suspected (perhaps wrongly) that it is entirely obvious that independent Catholic denominations belong to Catholicism, perhaps even more obvious than Anglo-Catholicism belongs to Catholicism. Regrettably there is no article about Catholicism, but that is not a reason to set Catholicism equal to the Catholic Church, nor is it a reason to set Catholicism equal to Catholicity. I can't see a reason for starting a new set Category:Catholicity either, because it would contain most Christian churches and would hence largely overlap with Category:Christian denominational families. 'Even' reformed churches sometimes claim catholicity, see e.g. Reformed Catholic confessing (in Dutch). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:52, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Institutes of Roman Catholic religious brothers

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:11, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: While at it, per further below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 21:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic cardinals

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Cardinals (Catholic Church). ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Destination category a disambiguation category. While I guess one could argue that the cardinals of the Catholic Church don't hold WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the article name Cardinal, that would be harder to do with the destination category name. I fail to see that there is encyclopedical relevance to motivate a category with biographical articles on individual cardinal birds. Dismbiguation categories should exist restrictively. This one case where it should be given up and instead deal with biographical articles on cardinals of the Catholic Church. Also in consistency with Category:Cardinals by century, Category:Cardinals by country, and‎ Category:Cardinals by nationality.‎ Chicbyaccident (talk) 21:44, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'd support that as a secondary best option. Including subcategories (feel free to nominate?). Chicbyaccident (talk) 00:04, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you are referring to Category:Catholic cardinals then? Chicbyaccident (talk) 22:24, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apologies it was meant to be double alternative rename, per main article as mentioned. I have corrected it now (in bold italic). Marcocapelle (talk) 03:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:21st-century movements

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Movement is a disambiguation page for e.g. Social movements and Art movements. Presumably this category is meant for social movements and should not be mixed with art movements. If renamed, the category should also be reparented, to Category:History of social movements. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:03, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases in North America

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases in North America to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse cases in North America
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United Kingdom to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United Kingdom
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in New Zealand to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in New Zealand
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in Australia to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in Australia
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse cases in the United States
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases in Ireland to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse cases in Ireland
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases in Europe to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse cases in Europe
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I think that makes sense. However, I'm uncertain whether merged proposal can be applied to the other ones. There might be percussions of individual proposals that I haven't thought about. That said, I won't protest if someone else insists on a merge, though. Chicbyaccident (talk) 22:04, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Catholic Church in the United Kingdom (per main article Catholic Church in the United Kingdom) doesn't seem to support that assertion, does it? Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church to Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Catholic Church
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hospitals formerly affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:13, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Hospitals formerly affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church to Category:Hospitals formerly affiliated with the Catholic Church
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic church in Overseas France

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:13, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic church in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:14, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic church in fiction to Category:Catholic Church in fiction
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic church in the Northern Territory

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:14, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Territorial prelatures of the Roman Catholic Church

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Territorial prelatures. ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Territorial prelatures of the Roman Catholic Church to Category:Territorial prelatures of the Catholic Church
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, this one could even be renamed to Category:Territorial prelatures per consistency with Category:Military ordinariates (and its previous equivalent discussion). Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:36, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Both options are fine. Since the article is at Territorial prelate without a disambiguator, I suppose a category name can also go without a disambiguator in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:32, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in Oceania

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:14, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in Oceania to Category:Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in Oceania
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D: Catholic Church; WP:C2C: Category:Catholic Church. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:43, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Esperanto movement in Iran

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Esperanto in Iran. ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT. No need to merge, both organizations are already in Category:Esperanto organizations. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:42, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The by-country tree is so small that we may better upmerge that it in a fresh nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic nursing orders

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:40, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Presidents of IEA

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 21:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Presidents of IEA to Category:Iranian Esperanto Association
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:33, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Former members of Roman Catholic religious institutes

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Renaming establishments by century from "Roman Catholic" to "Catholic" (17 categories)

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per below. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. Feel free should you believe any of the other nominations could be combined as well. Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:34, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If these all pass and you have more, you might look at doing some group nominations. Thanks for your cleanup efforts. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:42, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@RevelationDirect: I'm a fraid a collaborational effort will still be needed. By the way, have you considered contributing to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Catholicism)? Chicbyaccident (talk) 17:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Founders of Roman Catholic religious communities

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 21:17, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per consistency. Otherwise unexplainaed exception in otherwise thouroughly consistent category tree under Category:Catholic orders and societies. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:28, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse, it is a bit clear which "and all of the above" you are referring to. Would you mind making the effort to specifically indicate support above individually, please? Chicbyaccident (talk) 22:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Esperanto workers movement

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 20#Category:Esperanto workers movement. ℯxplicit 00:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, as it is entirely unclear what Esperanto workers movement means. No need to merge, because 4 articles are already in Category:German Esperantists and the other 2 articles already in Category:Esperanto organizations. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • While I agree that the original rationale no longer applies there are still two issues left. The four biographies should still be purged. And after purging the category becomes so small that the new article may better be moved to Category:Esperanto movement and the category may be deleted after all. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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