Category:History of management
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- The result of the discussion was: relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 10#Category:History_of_management. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently just one article. Correct me if I'm wrong but Category:History of business seems to be a more suitable merge target than either of the two parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:51, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Perhaps we need a Category: History of commerce as well. And/or a re-write of the article Business, which Wikipedia defines almost exclusively as relating to individual firms. But management, of course, operates equally in the non-commercial sectors - in government and in not-for-profits. - Jandalhandler (talk) 02:20, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support nom -- Business history is a recognised academic subject, distinct from economic history, though they are of course related. One of the objectives of business history journals is producing case studies for business schools, whose object is to teach management. Commerce may (as suggested) be slightly wider, but is not treated as an academic subject in its own right. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:10, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rulers of Númenor
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:26, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, nearly all items in the category are redirects to the same article List of rulers of Númenor. If the category is deleted, move the two articles List of rulers of Númenor and Tar-Aldarion to Category:Númenóreans. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Actors with disabilities
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- The result of the discussion was: keep as part of a series, without prejudice to any wider discussion of disability categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: "Disability" is far too vague to be used as a catch-all category. Is nearsightedness a disability? Mild arthritis? A decreased sense of smell? Skin cancer? Presumably most fatal illnesses would be disabilities, so lots of now-dead actors at one point or another were disabled. If someone had corrective surgery (bone spur, LASIK, braces) does that count? Disability says it is "an impairment that may be cognitive, developmental, intellectual, mental, physical, sensory, or some combination of these. It substantially affects a person's life activities..." That covers a lot of ground, far too much to be a defining characteristic. SummerPhDv2.0 16:52, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- "Actor's with (specific condition)" cats are likely to be discreet enough and I doubt anyone will create "Actor's with nearsightedness" and such. - SummerPhDv2.0 21:55, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- JDDJS has demonstrated that other categories exist. I would posit that FDR's inability to walk and Clinton's use of eyeglasses means both of them are presidents with disabilities. Helena Bonham Carter had a bit of bladder leakage after giving birth. Is that a "disability"? She said it substantially limited her wardrobe choices ("substantially affects a person's life activities"). As far as I can tell, there is not a bright line between "disabled" and not. (As for the other categories, the list of musicians is clearly very poorly added. Drug addiction is clearly a disability, but the distinction between drug addiction and cigarette smoking is blurry at best. It's actually rather hard to think of a band that doesn't have at least one member that would belong on that list.) - SummerPhDv2.0 02:39, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- If you want to have a much larger conversation about all the cats, then by all means have it. However, I strongly feel that one way or another we need to be consistent. Additionally having separate discussions would be redundant because the same arguments would apply and the only way it could end differently is if different people show up to the conversation. I highly recommend that you withdraw this nomination and instead start a new discussion that includes all of the occupations with disabilities cats. JDDJS (talk) 17:08, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Containerize, classifying someone as having a disability 'in general' is too subjective, but a container category for deaf actors, blind actors etc. should be allowed. Of course this also applies the same way to the sibling categories that haven't been nominated (yet). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:47, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This is a horrible plan that mixes all sorts of things, and brings up issues like if the disability was hidden, should we categorize by it. That we have other such equally bad categories does not mean we should keep this one.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:37, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Should we not be constitent one way or the other? I'm all for having a much larger discussion about all of these categories. However, I strongly feel that it would be wrong to just delete this single category. JDDJS (talk) 19:46, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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