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Category:Agronomists from Florida

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:01, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Parent category is small enough that we don't need to split this by state. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Arthur Loves Plastic soundtracks

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:06, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Small category holding only a redirect for a non-notable album. No chance of expansion. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 16:16, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1900s drama film stubs

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The result of the discussion was: merge category, but keep template. There was a weak consensus to upmerge the category, but persuasive argument that this category might be viable in the future. Keeping the template allows that to be done easily. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:42, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Unnecessary subcategory. An attempt was made to populate this category, but the corresponding stub tag is already on EVERY film in Category:1900s drama films, and there are only 51 articles, so the category cannot be expanded further. This category should be deleted, and the stub tag upmerged to Category:Silent drama film stubs and Category:Pre-1910 film stubs. Fortdj33 (talk) 15:47, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Zirkouh County geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete category and template. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:49, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Main article Zirkouh County is a redirect to Zirkuh County. There is already a Category:Zirkuh County geography stubs. This misnamed category is already empty, just delete. Dawynn (talk) 13:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sabahan stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete category, merge template. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. At best, things have been created out of order here. There is no article titled Sabahan, no permanent Category:Sabahan. Only one article merges here using a template that doesn't match the focus implied by the category title. Propose upmerging template ((Sabahan-activist-stub)) to Category:Sabah stubs, and deleting this category. Dawynn (talk) 13:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pornographic Magazine stubs

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The result of the discussion was: rename. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Rename. No reason to capitalize magazine for this category. Dawynn (talk) 13:42, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The DVE Morning Show members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Category for personalities associated with a local radio program on a single radio station in a single media market; pretty clear WP:OC#PERF violation. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 05:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Actors from Manhattan

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge both. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:09, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging:
Nominator's rationale: Merge. As agreed in a discussion of similar categories at CFD 2013 November 16, it is not relevant to the career of an actor that they come from one particular borough of New York City rather than another NYC borough. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:59, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As I indicated, boroughs will not be a satsfactory split. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Arthur Loves Plastic remix albums

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The result of the discussion was: NO CONSENSUS. It seems impossible to discern a decision from this discussion, although I have some sympathy with the (in)significance argument in favour of deletion. -Splash - tk 22:38, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single-item category containing only one redirect. Not needed. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 01:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Downtempo soundtracks

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The result of the discussion was: DELETE. It's long-since empty and lingering only because of this CfD. -Splash - tk 22:41, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Contains only one sub-category which is itself empty following my redirect of its only article based on the outcome of an AFD. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 01:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, I am aware that it is generally bad form to empty categories and then nominate them, however that is not what happened here. I redirected an article that per the outcome of an AFD was to be merged and redirected, which emptied the sub-category, not the nominated category. Maintaining two categories for a single redirect is nonsensical. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 16:14, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Liza Minnelli soundtracks

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The result of the discussion was: KEEP. Though it sounds very much as if some serious work is needed if this is not face another deletion nomination before too long. -Splash - tk 22:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. With the exception of Liza with a Z none of these are exclusively performed by Liza Minnelli, none of them are composed by her and several of them are cast recordings rather than soundtracks. None of the articles are about the albums themselves and several of them don't discuss the music in any detail. Categorizing soundtracks based on the artists who perform on them is problematic because usually a dozen or more people record songs for a typical production, which if fully implemented would result in more "soundtrack by" categories on film articles than film-related categories. There is a broad Category:Soundtracks by artist which IMHO should be looked at but regardless this category doesn't belong. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 01:34, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would argue that Category:Soundtracks by artist is not a well-established scheme based not only on its size relative to the available material but also its confused and confusing scope. It is unclear whether the scheme is intended to capture articles on soundtrack albums themselves, articles about films with soundtracks or some combination, or whether it is intended to capture articles based on the composers of soundtracks or the performers of them or again some combination and, in either, it opens questions of how articles with multiple artists performing on the soundtrack should be categorized. Is one song on the soundtrack sufficient and if so how does that not contribute to untenable category clutter for an article like for instance Thank God It's Friday which has well over a dozen artists on its soundtrack and at least that many composers? Regardless, SMALLCAT merely allows for small categories; it doesn't mandate them. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 16:23, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scope The scheme is small only the extent that it's part of diffusing categorization of 200,000 album articles. It's well-established and while SMALLCAT doesn't demand extensive categorization, it defends it in cases such as this. Categorizing various artists compilations per the individual artists has always been struck down as a bad idea and this would be no different. If an album is credited to a particular performer, then it would be categorized as such. If someone just appears on one track, that isn't defining for categorization. —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:25, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The point still remains that these are not articles about the albums themselves. They are articles about the film/show/play which discuss to greater or lesser degrees, and in some instances not at all, the music in what may or may not be an article section entitled "Soundtrack" or "Music". This category is not diffusing any of the 200,000 album articles because none of these articles are about the albums. The entire soundtrack categorization scheme is flawed in its conception because the scope is completely unfocused.
  • Regarding the assertion that one track on the album is insufficient for categorizing, by what objective criteria can we reach that result? Objectively at what percentage other than 0 or 100 do we say that a soundtrack is or is not "by" a particular artist? If a soundtrack is mostly by Artist One but Artist Two also appears on at least one track, at what point objectively speaking does the soundtrack stop being an "Artist One soundtrack"? Jerry Pepsi (talk) 21:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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