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The result was delete. There is sufficient concern about the content to warrant deletion of the current article content, but I don't believe there's consensus here to prevent recreation of an otherwise policy-complaint article j⚛e decker ^talk 19:03, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Verne Harnish

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Non notable founder of non notable organization. He wrote for Fortune, and they give him an award. His major book is in only 161 libraries worldwide according to worldcat,which is trivial for a popular book on small business.

Everything here is puffery, starting with "world-renowned" in the first sentence. See adjacent AfD for his organization "Entrepreneurs Organization" DGG ( talk ) 15:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Looks like someone very successfully weaved his organization and other entrepreneurs together with numerous articles. I am new to voting at AfD so I guess I will pose a question as this one is not obvious to me. Would subject pass WP:AUTHOR under criterion 3 as his book Mastering the Rockefeller Habits, even though not in many libraries, has been regarded as a go-to source for the business community? [1], [2], [3]. I agree about the article puffery, but trying to judge the sources before gutting the article down to simply being an author, not the founder of a world-renowned business organization.--CNMall41 (talk) 16:49, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per lack of substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. In response to CNMall41's question, no its not enough to be quoted in articles. Coverage has to be about the subject. Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:46, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Revising to weak keep. I did some cleanup to remove advertorial content and the Forbes book review noted below is substantial. Candleabracadabra (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)~~[reply]

Struck !vote above of blocked sock puppet, per WP:SOCKHELP. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:59, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Seems to be a melange of copyvio (from his Amazon author page ) and some other content. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 10:19, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Multiple of his books are translated into other languages: http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=Verne+Harnish&dblist=638&fq=+%28x0%3Abook-+OR+%28x0%3Abook+x4%3Adigital%29%29+%3E+ap%3A%22harnish%2C+verne%22&qt=facet_ap%3A (e.g. Japanese version "Fortune The Greatest Business Decisions of All Time". The book, Mastering the Rockefeller Comments, appears notable in its own right: translated into Spanish, Chinese, Russian, others (see e.g. http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=su%3ARockefeller%2C+John+D.+%28John+Davison%29%2C+1839-1937.+au%3Averne&qt=results_page ). Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 10:19, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- And before I forget I also dug up book reviews for "Mastering The Rockefeller Habits" in Forbes & Entrepreneur magazine Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 10:39, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Forbes review looks legit although it covers the book and not the individual. The second source is really just a passing mention. Candleabracadabra (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My point was, the book appears notable. Contrary to one of the nomination reasons: "His major book is in only 161 libraries worldwide according to worldcat,which is trivial for a popular book on small business." (btw, where do those holdings numbers appear in WorldCat). Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 07:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 12:06, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:13, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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