The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy Delete JIP should know better than this; when the author of an article nominates that article for deletion, it is a G7 speedy, even if he/she "abstains" in bold letters. I am persuaded that this result is "the right thing" (and not just a technicality) because the article has only the club's webpage as its source, thus failing WP:V because of a lack of WP:RS. Xoloz 14:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It must look weird that I'm nominating an article for deletion that I wrote myself, especially since I'm an admin. However, this is a response to the deletion of SMFR (which I since placed on WP:DRV). I feel that SMFR and Turun Baletti are of equal importance, and the articles should be treated in the same way. This nomination has therefore mainly been made to generate discussion. Abstain. JIP | Talk 14:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment looks vaguely pointy, why not wait for the DRV result? Yomangani^talk 14:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know it looks pointy, but it's not actually not so much, because I'm the author of both articles. JIP | Talk 17:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete around 100 unique Googles does not indicate that this is particularly notable, especially when one considers the vast numbers of hits that anything with an erotic context usually get. Please show evidence of multiple non-trivial coverage in sources of some provable authority. Guy 19:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • For that, I would have to live in Turku. SMFR has been mentioned in a Helsinki newspaper, but I do not know of any media mentions of Turun Baletti. JIP | Talk 20:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Does Turku not have a newspaper, or doesn't it have a website? I'm not going to search it; I don't read Finnish.Septentrionalis 16:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes Turku has a newspaper and yes it has a website. Not living in Turku, I don't read the print version, so I only have access to the website. I couldn't find any "search" form there so I couldn't search for mentions of Turun Baletti. JIP | Talk 04:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Argh per Yomangani; why couldn't you at least wait until the discussion on DRV was completed? If you don't actually want to see this deleted, don't nominate it "to generate discussion" for your other article. Beside all that, it would appear that these clubs could be merged into a BDSM in Finland article which would help them aggregate notability. -- nae'blis 13:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suppose you have a point. The original reason was the deletion of SMFR, which I would not have wanted deleted. In my opinion, SMFR and Turun Baletti are of absolutely equal notability, so Wikipedia should treat both articles the same way, especially since I wrote both of them. I'll wait for the DRV to be completed before making any further nominations. JIP | Talk 14:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.