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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Sandstein 16:49, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tristan Archer

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Tristan Archer

Professional wrestler whose notability is marginal, and who was already the subject of one deletion discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tristan Archer. Since there is no longer a special notability guideline for professional wrestling (which is not a sport in the usual sense), only general notability applies. An article should speak for itself, and this stub does not explain why the subject is notable. He holds the championship belt for a German wrestling promotion, which means that the promoters have decided that he can be the champion for now. An analysis of the references should not be necessary, but it shows that they are just trade rags, and none of them are secondary coverage, so that this stub does not satisfy general notability.

Reference Number Reference Comments Independent Significant Reliable Secondary
1 Cagematch.net Information about wrestlers No - Purpose is to promote wrestling No Yes No
2 wxw-wrestling.com About the wrestling promotion No - In the nature of advertising No - Passing mention Yes? No
3 wwe.com Advertising by the promoters, but does contain information about subject. No Yes Yes? No
4 cagematch.net States that subject is champion No - Purpose is to promote wrestling Yes Yes No
Robert McClenon (talk) 07:25, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - These tables are ridiculous and seem designed to give more gravitas to what remains just a series of opinions. I wish people would stop with these sorts of proclamations, and I hope they're just a fad that disappears quickly. I disagree with your assessment of the sites in terms of independence, reliability, and secondaryishness. What WP:BEFORE steps did you take? Doesn't a promotion deciding that a particular wrestler should hold their championship and thus become the face of their promotion indicate some notability (which, I acknowledge, would still need to be supported with coverage in secondary sources)? Brushing off a title as simply being part of a scripted storyline shows a misunderstanding of how and why such decisions are made in wrestling. I don't know that there is enough to warrant keeping the article (I'm an unapologetic inclusionist, but I am commenting rather than voting), but I don't think it's for the reasons you say. GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:23, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:21, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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