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The result was delete‎. The "keep" !vote by [[User:|]] is not supported by any sources. BookishReader uncovers a long list of sources, but these are basically skewered by JML1148. Since June 4, nothing new has been added, so I find that the "delete" !votes have the stronger policy-based argument. Randykitty (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tariq Farooq[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. All sources currently in the article are statistical databases. Other sources do exist [1] but are trivial. Last deletion nomination occurred when sport specific notability criteria existed. Since then they have been phased out. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:31, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Badminton, and Pakistan. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:31, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:24, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Met WP:NBADMINTON under 2017's rules, which were a lot looser, however the subject no longer meets the criteria. Couldn't find any sources that meet WP:SIGCOV. JML1148 (talk | contribs) 23:26, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, Is being a former World Senior Champion, European Senior Champion and World Master Games champion not enough to be considered notable? What kind of evaluation is that a former senior world champion is not notable at all? zoglophie 06:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Zoglophie. A major figure in Pakistani and Austrian badminton history. World Champion, European Champion, national coach of Pakistan/Austria badminton team and what not: [2], [3], [4]. Another lazy nomination by the nominator (second time!). More coverage: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], and much more if you do a thorough search. I'm sure we can find a lot of coverage about him in old Austrian newspapers (archives). BookishReader (talk) 10:20, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  None of the sources come even close to being WP:SIGCOV. They (all 15 sources) are trivial mentions of the subject. Please stop your disruptive editing! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:17, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Quite opposite in fact. Let's leave this to the community to decide if this is enough. I'd happily add more if required. BookishReader (talk) 20:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Sportsfan 1234: Calling it "disruptive editing" is going too far. They are being civil and constructive, and it's these sorts of comments that inflame long-winded, often uncivil debates. I would encourage you to strike that out. JML1148 (talk | contribs) 03:51, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Alright, who wants to write a long list breaking down whether the sources are good or not?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:28, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Here's an assessment of BookishReader's sources:

- Source 1 (in the nomination statement, not in BookishReader's comment) is too short.

- Sources 2, 3 and 4 are passing mentions.

- Source 5 is too short (a short paragraph about his performance, also mentioning his doubles partner, and a passing mention).

- Sources 6 and 7 are passing mentions.

- Source 8 is slightly too short for my liking, especially for a BLP (3 sentences, split up in a short article). I could see people having differing opinions on this.

- Source 9 is just statistics, effectively a passing mention.

- Sources 10, 11 and 12 are passing mentions.

- Source 13 (assuming it's this link) is too short.

- Source 14 is WP:ROUTINE.

- Sources 15 and 16 are passing mentions.

In my opinion, all of the sources fail WP:SIGCOV in one way or another, and the article's subject fail WP:NBADMINTON because of mainly being successful in senior divisions, which isn't covered by that criteria now. My delete !vote still stands unless someone contests my source assessment or provides sources that meet WP:SIGCOV. JML1148 (talk | contribs) 03:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BookishReader: Do you have any more sources? JML1148 (talk | contribs) 03:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to add more if I find any. I'm unfamiliar with Austrian sources and their archives, so I'm unsure where to look. Coverage about him in Pakistan is limited, mostly mentioning him as a coach. Perhaps an editor from Austria could help us.

It seemed like a notable topic to me, so I tried my bit to save the page. Thanks for your analysis, by the way. BookishReader (talk) 10:38, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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