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The result was Keep. Fram (talk) 11:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Street wear (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Non-notable marketing term, likely created to promote a magazine by the same name. Despite several requests on the talk page, no references have been provided to show that this is a notable topic on its own. Almost all edits have been done by anonymous IP's with little or no edits outside of this page, suggesting a possible conflict of interest. As discussions on the talk page have stalled, I present this to the community for discussion. BradV 21:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check out: http://www.amazon.com/Streetwear-Insiders-Guide-Steven-Vogel/dp/0811860361 Streetwear is NOT the same as HipHop fashion Also check out trade exhibitions such as http://www.breadandbutter.com and http://www.margin.tv to get a grip on what streetwear's about. These are streetwear exhibitions where hiphop fashion plays a very small part. Urban hiphop fashion may dominate streetwear in the USA but this is not the case across the rest of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.166.167 (talk) 23:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. "Likely", "Possible" are weak points against already presented NUMEROUS REFERENCES for Notability of the article on the article and talk pages. The STREETWEAR is the term used to define very particular style of clothing made by dozens of independent and big name brands. The discussion on the talk page has been stalled because Proposer of AFD has coped out from the discussion. Community should reject The Proposer's Personal POV on the issue as inept understanding of the subject.Imprevu (talk) 02:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per wp:nn The article does not have multiple reliable sources, it has links to PR snippets. This subject, if notable, would be covered by independent news outlets. As it is the article seems to be helping clothing manufactures to define a market segment and attract attention to product lines. The supposed popularity of this subject does not make it notable and clearly the links provided are more about getting early adopters to act than about neutral coverage of a topic. The "NUMEROUS REFERENCES for Notability " Imprevu mentioned are not links to reliable sites but to industry trade magazines and amazon.com. Faradayplank (talk) 22:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• What do you mean trade magazines? "Mass Appeal" is sold at newsstands (trade magazine?)... It covers variety of subjects, including "Streetwear". Industry doesn't define a market segment, but cater to existing market grown upon need of a particular lifestyle (and noticeable) of population segment... Why don't you ask skateboarders, fixed-gear bikers etc. what style of clothing they wear... Streetwear... Amazon.com link provides info about book covering that subject... Haven't you noticed that? And now... let me prove that Im not an elephant...Imprevu (talk) 00:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "not an elephant"? With regards to trade magazines ( see trade journal ), the magazine ref you provided isn't one (my mistake). Still to meet wp:n the references provided are not sufficient. Please, since you seem to care, go find more reliable third party links to provide the basis for notability. If this is so obviously a notable subject, as you contend, it shouldn't be hard to find them. In fact with 1,600,000 ghits and 660,000 ghits you shouldn't have a problem getting 3 more. like this one from 1994 and this which I would add to the article if I knew they were relevant but I'll leave that to you. It's all part of making Wikipedia a great encyclopedia. Best of luck :) Faradayplank (talk) 01:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have found more than 2 millions hits on Google(!) Isn't that constitute a Notability? Mass Appeal Magazine, Complex Magazine, Vapors Magazine, Faders Magazine, Vice Magazine, UBR Magazine.... Search for "Streetwear" on their sites - you'll see a lot of articles... I rest my case...Imprevu (talk) 01:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, they do not constitute notability. See WP:GHITS. They only show the potential for improving the article through reliable third party references Faradayplank (talk) 02:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good... Half a dozen of non-trade third party magazine-references have been established wp:n. Read them, enjoy it... Anything else I can do for your thirst for Streetwear knowledge?Imprevu (talk) 03:00, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Clearly notable topic, adequately sourced. DGG (talk) 03:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - the article could use some cleanup, but the topic itself is notable. For example, the Toronto Star has an article on hockey star Alexander Ovechkin's new line of street wear. -- Whpq (talk) 14:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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