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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Pamzeis (talk) 12:48, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Looking at topos, it looks as though Mr. Stark's ranch eventually was called the "Valley View Ranch", and GMaps shows only ruins. Likewise the rail line is gone, and from the article text you can already guess: yes, Stark was yet another isolated passing siding with nothing around it. One ranch, at some distance, does not a community make. Mangoe (talk) 16:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Mangoe (talk) 16:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Mangoe (talk) 16:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep. Stark had a post office. BTW - Stark was part of a previous blanket AfD which had a procedural keep. Having a separate AfD for Stark is fine with me. Cxbrx (talk) 03:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Having a post office isn't evidence for a settlement/community; they were put in all sorts of places (especially railroad stations) as an expedient, but the places were quite often isolated. Mangoe (talk) 05:48, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- While I don't completely discount ghosttowns.com, they are an amateur, self-published, and to some degree crowd-sourced site; I can't see taking them as a reliable source for writing material here, though I am willing to accept their photographs as some degree of verification of other sources. But in this case, there's no indication of where their information comes from, so when they say it's a settlement, I have to ask, "how do they know that?" Moreover, the indication is that nobody has actually made a site visit. As for the two homesteaders, what we have here is just a name drop. I can just as well believe that Stark happened to be the post office where they got their mail; the passages aren't about Stark, and they don't say anything about it. Everything else is inference. Mangoe (talk) 19:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- It does confirm that there were more residents than just the postmaster. There are a number of other land transfers, so there was definitely a real population at Stark. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 20:25, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Clearly a railroad facility. A post office is not a reliable indication of a community. Nothing to indicate notability. Glendoremus (talk) 21:10, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep as there were unrelated people reported to be "from" Stark and lots of legal notices about land claims. I also found this snippet "The overpass at Stark, Arizona, was formally dedicated February 8 (1931). This was the first work of this character in the entire country completed under President Roosevelt's WPA grade separation program. The dedication program was ..." I'm not sure what to make of this. Grade separation means the railroad was elevated over another busy route - but I don't know what this could be. MB 05:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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