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The result was delete. Without sources it can't even be merged. +Angr 16:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreferenced POV article that fails WP:N. It is un-encyclopedic and contains little content other than "he said it". Ostap 03:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete pending the addition of reliable sources. Based on the see also section, it seems there is some precedent for articles like this, although it does need to be references, flirting with BLP-related stuff as it does. Unfortunately, as I don't speak Polish, I'm probably not the best person to go looking for sources here. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• To closer: If more sources are added and I don't come back to change my comment, please consider this a neutral. Currently the only "source" is the original polish conversation. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This "famous" saying of Kaczynski is not as famous as the creator of the article claims. For the background information, in Poland right now the political scene in dominated by two parties, Civic Platform of Donald Tusk and Law and Justice of Jaroslaw Kaczynski. Both parties fight each with a huge determination and its supporters almost hate each other. Kaczynski did say that indeed, which resulted in some media coverage in Poland at the time but now it is insignificant. Politicians say many different things. Now days however, this incident is used by people who do not support Kaczynski to discredit him in the eyes of others. This is exactly what is happening here. Polish internal political fights are brought into English Wikipedia and this is not a place for it.--Jacurek (talk) 06:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Article is barely sourced. If this can be sourced and has any significance besides being an insulting comment spoken by a politician seven years ago, it can be merged into the article about the speaker, Lech Kaczynski. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with Lech Kaczyński, or keep. It is a significant phrase (if it were American there would probably be an article on it), but the information can probably best be presented within the article on LK.--Kotniski (talk) 11:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. —Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. —Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. —Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Lech Kaczynski. The instant title is very unlikely as a search term for readers of the English Wikipedia, which ought to be in English. In the absence of context, Piss off, old man! isn't particularly helpful as an article title either. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, per WP:NOTABILITY and all the above. Topic does not merit its own article. --Poeticbent talk 15:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious delete. Are we going to create articles about all remarks of politicians? This is a silly article, about an unsignificant utterance, made during an informal conversation. It has been blown out of proportions by some Kaczynski bashers, and to keep Wikipedia neutral, there is no space for such crap. Or perhaps we should write an article about Polish prime minister Donald Tusk chewing a gum during a meeting with Angela Merkel. Tymek (talk) 22:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Lech Kaczynski per Ihcoyc. For the record: Polish Wikipedia AfD from 2007.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or merge (to Lech Kaczynski) - as this has gone on to a whole life of its own as a catch-phrase. PasswordUsername (talk) 12:41, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - this was news in Poland for like two days way back when (can't even remember when, more than a year+), it was a "catch phrase" for maybe a week ... it's like making a Wiki page based on some joke that Jay Leno/Conan O'Brian told. Nothing notable. And of course, no sources.radek (talk) 22:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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