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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator with no outstanding delete !votes Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 16:21, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Monjack

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Lets start a bit about this brief recent history of this article, back in February (correction) March, I nominated this for a WP:PROD for that Mr. Monjack's only reliable third party coverage there is was being married to a famous actress, he was never famous for being a director, producer, a screenwriter or whatever. As for his "career", IMDB cannot be at all considerred a reliable third party source; the claim that he is a writer for one film have been rebuked by the director of that film he claimed, but still only received a credit for ass listed by IMDB.

As for being married to somebody famous, he ain't no Elin Nordegren or Kate Middleton enough to have his own article here. These were my decision to originally PROD this article, which then another editor later merged it to Murphy's article, caliming that notability is not inherrited, which I agreed on that decision. Now after learning that this was reverted because of reliable third party coverage of his death, I decided to revert this back to its merged state but another editor disagreed reverting this back suggesting that I should nominate it for an AfD if I disagree, hence I take this decision to nominate this article for deletion. I am willing to accept a decision to merge this to Brittany Murphy

Below, I included the original PROD nomination.

The only reliable third-party sources there is that exists of this BLP is either being married to Brittany Murphy or being still married to her at the time of the events that led to her death, nothing else in between. Other than that, there is no evidence of notability in existence other than anything in relation to Ms. Murphy's death or the time or their marriage, not even on his own or even his career. Donnie Park (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, only on his marriage, legal troubles, death and whatever has to do with his wife which all of its claim of fame has to do with, that will make up for more than a stub article. Anything to do with his career is IMDB, which cannot be classed as a reliable third party source. Have any reliable third party sources mentioned him without namedropping his wife? I doubt it. Donnie Park (talk) 15:27, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My correction, actually it was March not February, looking at the differences between the PROD nomination and events since then prior to this nom, the difference between these edits is his death, but then unless you are murdered, does dying make you famous. Donnie Park (talk) 15:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


ARGUMENT TO KEEP THE ARTICLE: The page for Simon Monjack should remain. He was still a human being who made headlines, regardless what that was for. Monjack did in fact work in the movie industry, which is not being disputed. Despite whether legalities of copyrights and contracts which outsiders will likely never be privy to, he made contributions in his circles the extent of which we also are not privy to. Of course he gained additional notoriety because of his very famous late wife's passing; however, that doesn't mean that he does not deserve a short article of factual information since his degree of famosity was not equal to his wife's.

If this is deleted, then by that logic so should the pages of many others whose spotlight was brightened by proxy of their spouse's much brighter light. Now that he's passed on, strangely very soon after his late wife's passing (also a fact worth remarking at least for its poetic value if nothing else), and respect should be shown by acknowledging he existed, like any other human being with some spotlight. There is more than enough space to do so, and in addition, one never knows how much more remarkable information is discovered posthumously. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisan1978 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 26 May 2010 (UTC) — Lisan1978 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

  • Comment. errrrr...since when was he ever a significant director, is there any reliable third party source to back your claim or are you a conlict of interest party, friends or relatives of his in that case, if you are then consider yourself conflict of interest and stay out...what I stated was all he was known for was getting married to Ms Murphy just so he can keep his ass in la la land and live off her money, hence how I compares him to Ms Middleton and Mrs Woods and your vote counts for nothing since your reason are pretty lame. Donnie Park (talk) 00:08, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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