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The result was delete. Nakon 04:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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I cannot find any Reliable Sources to support the inclusion of this article. Nothing in it is verified. A Google search finds many hits, but they are all to blogs and other unreliable sources, all aligned with the Men's Rights movement. (There are also some hits apparently relating to a different person who lives in Dorset.) Google Scholar found absolutely nothing; one would expect at least something if he was as important in the founding of the movement as the article claims. Google Books was a puzzle; it offered many books about men's rights and anti-feminism, but I could not find a mention of him in any of them. The article concedes that virtually no biographical information about him is available. For all I can tell he might be a myth. I propose for deletion as unverified. MelanieN (talk) 00:50, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- P.S. The article had been tagged for speedy deletion as a hoax (G3). I declined G3 because of the Google hits; if he is a hoax or myth, it is a widespread one. I felt that AfD is a more appropriate avenue for deleting this article. --MelanieN (talk) 00:53, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- delete-almost sounds like a comical article IMO. Wgolf (talk) 01:00, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It's not a hoax - the man existed and he did apparently found an organization which was indeed dedicated to men's rights. However I could only find one passing mention in a 1931 issue of Der Querschnitt, which we probably wouldn't consider a reliable source nowadays. In the absence of more sources we can't really verify the information about him or his organization. Anything recent seems to be limited to blogs. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Dang really? This sounds like something you see on a sitcom. Wgolf (talk) 01:26, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm afraid I don't see where you guys are finding humor. He sounds deadly serious to me. Anyhow, we seem to be agreed that the article should go. --MelanieN (talk) 04:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, I can find absolutely nothing about him anywhere Kharkiv07Talk 20:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The name appears in some old Viennese literature (as well as the Querschnitt, there's also this entry in the Wiener Geschichtsblätter, where Höberth is described as the most important writer for the Männer-Zeitung), but whether as a nom de plume or a real name we cannot tell. Regardless, the person(a) fails WP:N by a long, long way. --Stemonitis (talk) 17:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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