The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Showbiz Pizza Locations

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A long unformatted list of former Show Biz Pizza locations. Should be deleted per WP:NOT#DIR or maybe userfied. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 21:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I created the original "Showbiz Pizza Place" page. Some other wiki users have been trying to get this list of former locations completed as well as formatted, but others are complaining that the orignal article is bogged down by it. It seems that this information belongs somewhere, and rather that simply delete what others are putting a lot of work into, I thought this page could help solve the problem. Rather than simply suggesting a deletion, do any other wiki users have some suggestions for us on how this information could be better formatted? I think with a little work, it can be a useful source of information for those interested in the subject.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Showbizpage (talk • contribs)
Perhaps if you could find reliable sources to verify these locations. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 21:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So, if someone took the time to verify these entries by finding say, a local Yellow Page entry, and calling it up; is that a "reliable source" which is allowed, or "original research" which is not. Showbizpage 21:57, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The second one. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 22:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, I'm confused. Looking in an old Yellow Pages for Showbiz is clearly not original research. Or do you mean looking for a Chuck E. Cheese and actually calling the number and asking if it used to be a Showbiz? (That would be unacceptable, I'd think, but more as not a reliable source -- I think the chances that the average Cheesian is even old enough to know are pretty low.) Pinball22 15:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete I don't care if there are reliable sources or not, as it's just- say it with me- a list of locations of former pizza restaurants. I can't imagine when or how this would be considered notable. And let me note that I apologize to the above user, who has obviously put effort into the page. Sorry to say, but in no way could this article ever satisfy WP:N. -- Kicking222 22:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I have to agree with the reason provided by the nominator - this is a dirctory listing. We have the yellow pages for that (or old copies of the yellow pages in the library for that). Agent 86 22:42, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This user seems to have a WP:COI -- his only edits are to Chuck E Cheese related pages and he seems to own a Chuck E Cheese/Show Biz tribute website. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 23:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete - God help us if someone tries to make a list of McDonalds locations. No, don't point me there if it already exists. Let me live in blissful ignorance. Douglasmtaylor ^T/C 23:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It could be worse. It could be much worse. How about Starbucks Coffee locations? The locations in downtown Seattle alone.... --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 19:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Locations are best handled by the company web page for Showbiz and/or Chuck E Cheese - we're not a directory. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 23:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, and may I suggest that if the author already runs a website for the restaurant, perhaps installing a wiki would be a way to preserve this information and make it available for public improvement. I don't see any reason why we shouldn't be able to link to this information, as long as it's hosted someplace else. (A wiki, however, will not be a reliable source.) --Dhartung | Talk 23:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is a conflict of interest with regards to the author. Also, Wikipedia is not a directory, so you should not just list out the branch locations without context to explain their significance.--Kylohk 00:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Showbiz Page and Showbiz Pizza looks a conflict of interest here and also Wikipedia is not a directory, this is not the place for listing the locations of particular restaurants.--JForget 02:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not encyclopedic in the main article, not by itself. This is why they have a web site.DGG (talk) 03:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good points all. But I do want to point out, there is some confusion going on here. I am not the author of this information, nor do I run any websites. I did create the "Showbiz Pizza Place" wikipedia entry. I am actually for this deletion, as I do not see the point of a list such as this on the main article, or anywhere else on Wikipedia. But tried to create a separate page, so that I wasn't just arbitrarily deleting works that others might have saw fit to use. Showbizpage 03:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

you did nothing wrong to try to make a worthwhile article. DGG (talk) 23:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge back into Showbiz Pizza Place article. None of us can hop in a time machine to visit any of these, and none of these have historical markers in front of them. Mandsford 00:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and above. No assertion of notability, no references at all, and we're unlike to find any. I agree with DGG's comments in particular. Bearian 19:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.