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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:28, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sheikh Badr

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The article is completely unfounded and sketchy. It is countered by this article, which states that the land was owned by the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate. This may be Arab revisionist history and should be investigated with contemporary source material, not revisionist "history" books. This would be similar to Sheikh Jarrah, which was a mixed or Jewish neighborhood prior to 1948, but during Jordanian occupation 1948-67 was recreated into the "Arab" Sheikh Jarrah.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Metallurgist (talk • contribs) 22:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Besides the sources I just posted to the talk page (from Benny Morris and Moshe Gil), this image of the area from 1918 and the accompanying description attest to Sheikh Badr's existence as an "Arab village". Morris describes it as a "subrub-village" of Jerusalem when discussing its depopulation in 1948. Gil refers to it as a "neighborhood".

I also don't see how the article you (Metallurgist) linked to disproves the existence of Sheikh Badr as an Arab village and later neighborhood of Jerusalem in any way. Suggest the nomination be withdrawn. Tiamut^talk 23:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No reason for deletion has been provided. Extra material on the article talk page provides proof that this was a genuine location. Zero^talk 05:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/Redirect into Givat Ram, which is the same area. In general, one geographic area does not get a separate article for each time that its status changes. Unless, of course, we treat Israel differently. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 19:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Brewcrewer. --Shuki (talk) 22:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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