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The result was keep. John254 00:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

San Leandro High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Nothing is asserted (let alone sourced) about the notability of this school. Goochelaar (talk) 18:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep We treat secondary schools as notable usually (See WP:OUTCOMES). I have also found additional material concerning this school and semi-recent racial tensions. I am trying to find a better URL than the one I have. spryde | talk 20:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keeep more reliable sources Better sourced now Keeper | 76 16:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC). On a demographic note, the dems listed only add up to 70%. Are the other 30% Klingon? Martian? Ukrainian? My point is, it needs cleanup, not deletion Fixed this myself Keeper | 76 16:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC) . Keeper[reply]
  • Thanks for the update on demographics. Personally, I was hoping that it was a large percentage of illegal Klingon aliens that someone was trying to hide, but your numbers work just as well. Alansohn (talk) 19:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable alumni and other school accomplishments, supported by reliable and verifiable sources, satisfies the Wikipedia:Notability standard. I will get on the demographic data soon. Alansohn (talk) 00:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The school is notable enough. • Lawrence Cohen 05:50, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by the nominator I appreciate the effort in sourcing and adding data, but I fail to understand how a school is notable because of its alumni (as notability is not inherited) or because it had some internal problems (every apartment building has them, now and again). As for WP:OUTCOMES, it nowhere says that school, secondary or otherwise, are inherently notable (they have to comply with general notability guidelines); it just gives some data about deletion debates. Goochelaar (talk) 16:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• I must agree with you on inherited notability. The notable alumni are notable in large part due to their attendance at San Leandro High School. Obviously, not all students are notable simply because they attended SLHS, but these are just some of the students where there is evidence of their accomplishments. As with places, politicians and highways, WP:OUTCOMES simply reflects the massive weight of evidence that all such schools are notable and seeks to avoid wasting time of all involved trying to argue a case that seems to be long settled. the results of this AfD will only add to that body of evidence on high school notability. I don't have any reason to believer that your nomination was in anything other than good faith; however, the longstanding precedent on high school notability and the reliable and verifiable sources provided meet the Wikipedia:Notability standard. Alansohn (talk) 19:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep — Sigh. Like army surplus spam from the Spanish-American war, I see the same High School AfD debates arguments endlessly rehashed. So I'll once again reiterate my own. As there is no consensus on High School notability, I use my personal criteria. I find this High School sufficiently notable. — RJH (talk) 20:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Answer to Alansohn and RJHall Ok, apparently, being an European, there is a special relevance high schools have in American culture I am not able to gauge or judge (and I am not meaning this ironically). In my opinion, a particular high school might be notable because it has been cited as giving rise to a particular didactic method, as having been the place of some known occurrence, or even as being housed in a very peculiar building (or because most pupils are Klingon!). I stand my opinion, but I acknowledge that the consensus seems to be contrary to my interpretation, so I am somewhat grudgingly inclined to withdraw my nomination. Goochelaar (talk) 22:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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