The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I'm totally discounting the unsigned comments from IP editors with no history. The comment by Aeonx, while ostensibly arguing to keep, is really giving reasons which support deletion.

So, that leaves us with Justlettersandnumbers and SwisterTwister making cogent arguments to delete, and Atlantic306 making a good argument to keep. I find Altantic's argument that, The New York Times and London Evening Standard articles are enough, to be compelling. But not compelling enough to make me go against the weight of numbers and call this a straight keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Roberto Gagliardi

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Despite all the the WP:COI puffery, this person apparently is not notable enough to have an article here. There's one good in-depth source in the page, a New York Times article; the rest seem to be connected sources, either obviously or less obviously so.

There are many people called Roberto Gagliardi: the name gets 7 hits on Highbeam, six for an American railwayman, one for a British footballer; Google news is dominated by a young politician from southern Italy, and a search for " 'roberto gagliardi' gallery " gets no relevant hit. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:00, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Vipinhari || talk 17:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Vipinhari || talk 17:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more links to Roberto Gagliardi that can help not delete his wikipedia page for lack of notability and can be added to his references:

http://artmag.saatchigallery.com/ciao-chianciano/

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/warhol-drawings-help-raise-11000-for-polio-charity-8468630.html

http://archivio.lastampa.it/m/articolo?id=5a110faf8411db17667cfa8d4851c9e84f085c23

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:13, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Roberto Gagliardi may be low profile but definitely notable in the art world http://www.museodarte.org/en/2015project http://www.gagliardigallery.org/roberto-gagliardi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.55.108 (talk) 14:15, 15 March 2016 (UTC) — 217.43.55.108 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 10:05, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The article is well supplied with sources; however, many of them appear to be closely connected with Gagliardi. These include:

museodarte.org: website of Gagliardi's art museum in Chianciano Terme
www.casagagliardi.org: registered to Peter Gagliardi, 509 King's Road, London
europeanartcritics.org: apparently identical to international-confederation-art-critics.org, contact address 509 King's Road, London, headquarters Art Museum of Chianciano, 280 Viale della Libertà, Chianciano Terme; both are hosted by The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd, Newbury, Berkshire
artnewsreport.com: no editorial team or contact address; many pages associated with the museum in Chianciano Terme, for example this; site is hosted by The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd, Newbury, Berkshire
artpress24.com: no editorial team or contact address; many pages associated with the Gagliardi gallery in London or the museum in Chianciano Terme; site is hosted by The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd, Newbury, Berkshire
www.londonbiennale.co.uk: registered to Peter Gagliardi, 509 King's Road, London; hosted by The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd, Newbury, Berkshire
artworldtalk.net: no editorial team or contact address; apparently closely connected to Gagliardi; hosted by The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd, Newbury, Berkshire
gagliardigallery.org: website of Gagliardi's gallery at 509 King's Road, London; registered to Peter Gagliardi at that address; hosted by The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd, Newbury, Berkshire

Once those have been removed there will be two reliable and two unverifiable references in the page. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:29, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If he founded a private museum, art space or exhibition, albeit an important one like the London Art Biennale, it is only normal that the website of the actual institution is somewhat connected with his name and this does not damage the integrity of the source.

Other third party sources sources listed below include the Saatchi Gallery Magazine, London's Evening Standard, the New York Times and the official Chianciano Terme Council website:

Delete as all of this is clearly questionable for WP:CREATIVE, nothing else convincing regardless of the number of votes and comments at this AfD. SwisterTwister talk 05:41, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Most references are in passing and claim of notability is weak at best. However, there are a lot of hits so he may be meet the guideline. I'm inclined to keep this article but tag for Notability at this stage. Aeonx (talk) 21:57, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as there seems to be enough reliable sources identified such as The New York Times article, London Evening Standard and many specialist art sources so that WP:BASIC is passed IMHO. Atlantic306 (talk) 00:00, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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