The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-administrative closure) -- RyRy5 (talk) 01:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rescuers assisting Jews during the Holocaust (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

I'm concerned that this article/list makes too subjective a determination in choosing examples of people who fit the bill of "rescuers assisting Jews during the Holocaust". The first three-fourths of the article (at least the daughter article links) is more objective, because we can objectively determine who received the Righteous Among the Nations recognition. However, in as much as the article does that, it is repetitive with List of Righteous among the Nations by country. The portion of the article that is not repetitive with that list, has no objective criterion. As you can see on the talk page and article history, inclusion is often a source of dispute. To use the example of two featured articles (Joel Brand and Pope Pius XII) the nature of someone's actions during the holocaust can be a controversial subject, as can their classification as "rescuer". Thus, Wikipedia should not be in the business of creating such lists from scratch; only reporting the lists of others. As was pointed out in the similar (successful) deletion debate for Category:People who helped Jews during the Holocaust, this is too much like a category for someone who deserved an Oscar but didn't get it. Savidan 02:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: This article may be better off as "List of . . ." But this is still a valid topic, an important part of world history. And the people mentioned in this article are notable. Hellno2 (talk) 17:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not dispute the notability of the people or the need for such a list. Such a list already exists, as do the bios; it's this additional combination that I object to as original research. Savidan 00:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep — The article needs a new name though, and to echo Hellno2 again, a "List of..." is a good idea. Leonard^Bloom (talk) 17:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep, needs a better title. The current one is CLUMSY.Galassi (talk) 17:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep this serious topic well sourced. IZAK (talk) 06:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep, the title is already changed for the better.Lute88 (talk) 11:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 02:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.