The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was NO CONSENSUS TO DELETE. There's not really much more to say than that. The numbers are about equal and so, in my view, is the strength of argument. Some of the Keep arguments are weak, but some are reasonably strong.That the page was moved by a banned user is interesting but not very germane. Herostratus 15:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Religious democracy

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There seems to have been a malformed and aborted AfD on this previously Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Religious democracy, and an old mediation cabal case Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-01-11 Islamic democracy.

This article is essentially an essay - one could start with the phrase "religious democracy" and go off in any number of directions as an essayist. In this case three of the four sources for the first two sections seem to indicate the author is trying to discuss or generalize some sort of Iranian context of religioius democracy (although this is not mentioned in the text). The existing Islamic democracy article has an "Iran" section which would seem the natural home if this is the case. One could point out a number of opinions, unsourced assertions, mangled writing, etc. - the article seems to have originated as a redirect to Khatami-ism, then to Religious democracy (disambiguation), with the existing text being the remnant of a larger insertion by User:Farhoudk. The AfD and mediation would seem to suggest this is some sort of POV fork, but frankly the whole history is so convoluted it is hard to tell.

The "American" section seems to have been bolted on later, begins with an odd and certainly untrue assertion ("term 'American Religious Democracy' first used by Bruce Ledewitz"; Google search showing many other uses here) and proceeds to copyvio the blurb for the book ([1], published 2007). David Oberst 08:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. If you support retaining the article, you need to issue a KEEP vote. The non-affirmative statement — Do not delete — is remark that leaves much to be desired, especially during AfD discussions. Aarktica 13:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That is covered elsewhere. This article seems to be talking about America, amazingly enough. The Behnam 08:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Where is it covered? If so, this then this should be a redirect to that article. --Mardavich 08:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Islamic Democracy, if I am not mistaken. The Behnam 08:28, 30

March 2007 (UTC)

But what about Christian democracy, Basic Laws of Israel, etc. ? They are not Islamic for sure. The term religious generalizes the concept of religious democracy to all religions. The first paragraph may refer to lectures of some Iranian or Muslim scholars but it does not mean that the concept is Iranian or Islamic; it is religious. This is why I requested for expansion of the article to ask how democracy and every other religion can co-exist in a country and specially all together (See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Religious_democracy&diff=110802672&oldid=110784668). Farhoudk 06:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Religious_democracy for an old AfD of Religious democracy made by user:Patchouli. And also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Religious_democracy .
Farhoudk 05:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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