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The result was keep. Please defer merge related discussion to article talk. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reggae Reggae Sauce (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

non notable product. The sauce is only on sale in one country, in one chain of stores, which does not reflect an accurate world-view. Indeed, that store has only stocked it in limited amounts, and only for less than 4 days now. A single mention by the BBC does not make a product notable. This article was speedily deleted by myself earlier, and this is a recreation that is unfortunately no better than the previous version because exactly Zero notablilty has been established. There's not notability for the company, for the sauce, hell even the singer it's named after wouldn't meet WP:BAND. Until this article achieves some REAL notability worldwide, or even significant notability in the UK (which it hasn't), it should remain off wikipedia. Perhaps on "wikicondiments" if there were such a thing. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 06:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/redirect to Dragons' Den along with Levi Roots, the creator of the sauce.--TBCΦtalk? 07:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note It would contribute nothing to the Dragons' Den article. No other product is discussed on that page. Why this non-notable one?⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 07:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • From what I've read, it seems that Levi Roots was one of the contestants on Dragon's Den, and it was the sauce which won him his award (an investment by a group of business experts referred to as the "Dragons") as well as all the media coverage mentioned below.--TBCΦtalk? 22:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep - notable product. There are multiple references from reliable sources. The article contains more than just "a single mention by the BBC" and google news currently has 24 references to news articles about the product [1].Should have creator's article merged in though (Levi Roots). --J2thawiki 11:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • NoteActually that link only provided 16 valid links. Hardly notable. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 17:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note This link now has 25 news articles [2]. How many reliable sources does an article need to be notable? --J2thawiki 17:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with Levi Roots, who is also a musician. There is a fair bit of coverage.--Conjoiner 15:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and merge with Levi Roots article. —Ocatecir ^Talk 16:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I live in a cave and even I have heard of it. --kingboyk 23:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I don't understand why the nominator is saying that the article should be deleted because the product "is only on sale in one country.....which does not reflect an accurate world-view". I didn't realise we could only have articles on products which are available worldwide. White Castle hamburger restaurants only exist in the USA, does that mean their article should go too.....? ChrisTheDude 08:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd also dispute the assertion that it has not gained notability in the UK - the story has been featured in the news on every major television channel and in most newspapers, and Mr Roots has appeared on multiple talk shows discussing the whole episode..... ChrisTheDude 13:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep It is on sale in a major supermarket in the UK. It has had extensive recent media coverage in a variety of places. The musician who created it is notable for having been nominated for MOBO award, which justifies his own page separate to the product. I have never heard of White Castle hamburgers mentioned above but that doesn't mean I'd want the page deleted.Tilefish 12:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - there are multiple independent sources where the sauce in question is the focus of the article: Croydon Guardian, Daily Record, and Metro News are a sample. -- Whpq 19:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - another bit of evidence for "notable" - an interview with Roots on LBC - [3] Doctorbob 20:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - yeah... you can't really ask for a hot sauce to be any more notable. Jono (talk) 21:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - National media coverage is pretty darn notable. Article could do with improving, though, but you could say that of any article. Markusdragon 15:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - National Media coverage.. and it's one of the fastest product launches i've ever seen to boot. --ACE Spark 22:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - loads of media interest, its been selling out in supermarkets, and may take over the world(!) Starguitar 01:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Someone from Tallahassee, Florida says that a product isn't notable enough in the UK... right. I think British people know better. I don't see why he wants to delete it despite the media coverage and nationwide launch... surely there are many people who will hear about it on the radio or see it on TV and want to find out what the product is, which is exactly where Wikipedia comes in, for neutral information. It's not a 'pop knowledge' site, for popular items only. It's a knowledge resource - all knowledge for all who want to know. Saying that, this product is not obscure. MathiasFox 02:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Ah yes, you must be well aware of the many times I've been to the UK, or the several colleagues and collaborators I have from the UK who have never heard of this product? When did this become Britopedia? People from the UK are constantly complaining that American-centric articles "do not represent a world view"....well guess what, neither does this. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 02:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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