The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rank insignia of the Galactic Empire

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Also nominating for the same reason

Four months after first nomination, article is still unsourced and speculative; article is almost entirely a description (i.e. plot summary) of who wears what with almost no explanation of real-world Why? or So what? Two assertions about movie production are uncited -- and, even if cited, are insufficient to sustain an article. --EEMIV (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Agree fully with nominator. Malinaccier (talk) 00:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Length of time during which an article hasn't been improved is irrelevant as to whether or not an article should be deleted. Citations can be added. The article can be cleaned up. There is no time limit during which either of these must take place. Rray (talk) 01:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Can be, can be, can be -- since June 2004, it hasn't been. I suspect a main reason there aren't any sources is that there isn't any meaningful content to cite. Editors haven't met the burden of proof for verifiability to sustain this article. --EEMIV (talk) 01:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete After all this time, prove that it can be sourced. Or don't, because the subject seems too trivial for a general encyclopedia, and footnotes that prove that these insignia are used by the Galactic Empire wouldn't fix that. Noroton (talk) 04:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article states that "Star Wars producers have [n]ever firmly established a pattern and system for the Imperial rank insignia seen in Star Wars. This has led to much speculation, conjecture, and entertainment by Star Wars fans" but can't even source that. AnteaterZot (talk) 07:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction & Fantasy-related deletions. --Gavin Collins (talk) 09:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as these awards have no reliable secondary sources to demonstrate notability outside of the Star Wars canon, let alone any notability in the real-world.--Gavin Collins (talk) 09:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Doubtful these articles can pass notability criteria. Doctorfluffy (talk) 18:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the Galactic Empire is pretty well known and so the various ranks of it is something many readers will be interested and considering the notability of the topic, it should be reasonably verifiable. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The Empire may be notable, but how is its rank structure? Where is evidence of the ranks' notability explained in these articles' five-year history? --EEMIV (talk) 18:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Unless can establish notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 02:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The passage of time is relevant here. We can't go on saying "it might improve" when it is clear that nobody is going to improve it. Mayalld (talk) 12:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the article itself, which states: "Neither Lucas or the Star Wars producers have ever firmly established a pattern and system for the Imperial rank insignia seen in Star Wars." Therefore, such information could only ever be fan speculation. Even if it were 100% official, I can't see such a thing being covered in a general-interest encyclopedia anyway. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.