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The result was delete. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Platinia Hotel

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It's... a hotel. And it opened like two months ago. No discernible historical, architectural or corporate notability. Yes, the local press gave a certain degree of coverage to the opening — but they also notice when supermarkets, swimming pools or hair salons open.

The only smidgen of notability might come from the award. However, I'm skeptical this is real. First, because it's sourced to "EvoNews", a dubious PR site; and second, because on the actual Romanian Hotel Awards site, there's no mention of Platinia. I mean, they allegedly were named most modern hotel in 2017 but only opened in 2018, so...

Anyway, I'm sure it's a very nice hotel and all, but there really is no indication that an encyclopedia should have an article about it. - Biruitorul ^Talk 14:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Just a random hotel, fails WP:GNG. All of the existing references is just a blatant advertising for this hotel and shouldn't be considered as useful.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 16:51, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I removed the laughable "notable guests" section since the one person mentioned therein doesn't even have their own article. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 17:12, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:38, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:38, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:38, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Five-star hotels, by their nature, attract media attention and get written about. This hotel has gotten coverage from national media outlets in Romania, including this one from well before it opened (and possibly before construction started. The article is promotional, but that can be fixed. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Please see WP:ORGSIG - your apparent argument that five-star hotels are inherently notable is belied by the policy. (Especially as, very likely, the stars are self-awarded.) Apparently, Romania has around 100 and Europe something like 1300 - we're heading into WP:NOTDIR territory if you propose having articles on all of these.
- Please also see WP:SUSTAINED - yes, an announcement about the project ran a year ahead of the opening (that also happens routinely), but the vast majority of coverage centers around the opening itself. There truly isn't any indication of long-term encyclopedic significance. - Biruitorul ^Talk 22:35, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The "Romania Hotel Award" fills a local niche and doesn't prove notability in the slightest. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 01:03, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article has received detailed coverage in the media that means it is notable. If it was not that notable it had not received that much coverage, that too in the top tier media outlets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apifara (talk • contribs) 09:14, 24 June 2018 (UTC) Apifara (contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Keep I live in Cluj Napoca and I certify that all sources are real. The hotel is amazing architecture and is on old historical place Fabbrica de bere Ursus. The first beer machine is still there keep it well. For us people from Cluj is a nice thing that a building like this was constructed here. I think it should be keep it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mihaigruia1 (talk • (contribs) 16:18, 24 June 2018 (UTC) Mihaigruia1 (contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment It's not whether or not the sources are real, but whether they establish notability for the subject, and these currently don't. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 21:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: fails WP:NOTTRAVELGUIDE / WP:PROMO. An advertorially toned page on an unremarkable hotel; WP:TOOSOON for sure. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:57, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The sources are real and I don't see how it violates the WP:NOTTRAVELGUIDE. It has no prices listed nor does it advertise any businesses or products. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.166.131.16 (talk) 07:07, 28 June 2018 (UTC) - — 109.166.131.16 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Keep I can’t see why this page should be deleted. There is no comercial infos there, is linked with a historical zone from Cluj, it has enough references. Personally, i would like to read about a modern hotel like that placed in such a place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.233.108.108 (talk) 07:20, 29 June 2018 (UTC) — 213.233.108.108 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment Four of the five "keep" votes so far are from the article creator and three SPAs, all of whom have made similar comments on here while not signing their edits. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 16:27, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nothing notable about this hotel. Dubious keep votes by new SPA convinces me that someone is trying to game the system. Its time editors without an established history should not be able to access administrative boards, yes its a policy that anyone can edit wiki mainspace but need that apply to admin procedures? I think not Lyndaship (talk) 09:49, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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