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Merge at an appropriate level of detail with Crokinole then delete, or redirect thereto. Crokinole (or as I learned it, croquinole) seems to be the same thing but better referenced. Accounting4Taste00:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I would say it closer resembles Shove ha'penny. See the image located at that article, and then modify it in your mind by imagining a diamond-shaped configuration of pegs on the board to serve as obstacles, and a hole punched in the end zone of each side of the board to serve as a goal to flick the penny into, and only one penny instead of a bunch of them, and a center peg that the penny is balanced on at the start of the game, and a low-slung outer wall on each side of the board to keep the pennies in bounds, and you have the general idea. Captain Zyrain01:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Though in this instance I agree that this should be deleted as something made up, please note that the original suggestion that "no references = made up" is as inaccurate as, say, saying "not red = green". Just because no references are provided doesn't automatically mean that something has simply been made up. Grutness...wha?00:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Note that MADEUP is the shortcut link wikipedia itself provides for Many editors, especially newer ones, are tempted to write articles about ideas which they or their friends have come up with, such as a new ball game invented in the park, a new word or phrase invented in the playground, or a new drinking game invented at a particularly memorable party. --NeilN00:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I know that, and certainly many things for which references have not been provided may well be made up. But it is equally possible that the article is on a subject that is not widely documented online. I've written quite a few articles myself where I've looked for online sources that would provide suitable references and been unable to find anything suitable. There is no one-to-one relationship between items that are unreferenced and items made up by the writers - and it is that which I am commenting on as a flaw in your initial nomination. Grutness...wha?01:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that was what I took issue with as well. I don't know about the history of the game, I just know that everyone in the shop classes at our school was assigned to make one of these boards and that people were always playing them during lunch break and between classes. Whether it exists outside of that school, I don't know, but I didn't make it up. Captain Zyrain01:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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