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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:27, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable construction method. The sourcing is from a patent and an article about the inventor going to jail. I can only find confirmation of the inventor's legal issues. Oaktree b (talk) 16:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Engineering and Israel. Oaktree b (talk) 16:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• I would say trim down greatly and Merge with Versailles wedding hall disaster, since that seems to be the one point of notability for this construction method. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 16:45, 23 July 2023 (UTC) Striking my previous Merge and changing to Keep per sources listed below. Not all of those are necessarily significant coverage, but at least one of the English-language sources was, and I'm guessing many of the Hebrew sources are as well (I don't read Hebrew, so I missed those). WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to check out the abundance of sources that support keep by WP:GNG. Both in Hebrew and English! gidonb (talk) 00:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Easy pass of the WP:GNG per [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16]][17][18][19][20][21] This is just some of the coverage. The WP:SIGCOV is WP:LASTING. Structures had to be strengthened through all of Israel drawing tons of attention and a national effort exists to replace all PalKal structures. The inventor was sent to prison for 4 years. gidonb (talk) 19:21, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 07:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Gidonb. I went through his references, some of which were published decades after Versailles, and discuss the ramification's of Pal-Kal's continued use in buildings. Particularly strong are #3, 13, 19 (Ynet) 5 (Calcalist) 6, 7, 10 (Globes) 8, 17, 18 (Haaretz) 9 (Israel Hayom) 12, 21 (Arutz Sheva) 14 (Walla! News) 16 (The Jerusalem Post) and 20 (Hamodia). The many details in these sources about the hows, whys and legacy issues with the Pal-Kal method, which is still an issue in hundreds of buildings across Israel, are simply [[WP:OFFTOPIC--Geewhiz (talk) 07:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)]] in the Versailles article. Havradim leaf a message 23:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per the refs provided above. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 05:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I did a different source search, looking for academic articles on the construction type, and found it to be easily notable just on academic articles alone. SportingFlyer T·C 14:26, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! Good to know! gidonb (talk) 22:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep A notable construction method that had poor outcomes, no reason to delete.--Geewhiz (talk) 07:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Gidonb.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:06, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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