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The result was redirect to List of characters in The Railway Series#Oliver (Number 11/1436). Tone 06:21, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver the Great Western Engine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page here in the form of "This article meets criteria A and B because..." and ping me back through WP:ECHO or by leaving a note at User talk:Piotrus. Thank you. " It was deprodded by User:Spinningspark with the following rationale "deprod. This is a very well known series and the article has multiple contributers over decades. Not really suitable for prod, a full review is needed before deletion". Thank you for providing a rationale, even if I think the outcome is going to be a pretty unanimous and uncontroversial redirect to the list of characters of this show or the series itself. But let's see if I am proven wrong. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Piotrus, if you think redirect is the right outcome, then it would have been a lot less painful if you had just redirected it in the first place. Very likely that would not have been challenged. So why are we at AfD? Do you have a pressing reason to delete all the back history of the page? SpinningSpark 09:46, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to List of characters in The Railway Series#Oliver (Number 11/1436), character clearly does not pass GNG, with the sources currently in the article being either primary or unreliable, and no better sources can be found. If someone contests a prod, logically they will also contest a redirect. Devonian Wombat (talk) 08:31, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this creation of articles on every minor character has reached a level that makes no sense.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:56, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.