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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 00:35, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nintendo 64 Game Pak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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This was split off from Nintendo 64, however, I don't think that it's notable enough for its own article. Most sources focus on the N64 and not the individual Game Paks. Overall, this information should really just be re-integrated into Nintendo 64. Beerest355 Talk 18:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. There's way too much granular information here that doesn't belong in a general overview article about the Nintendo 64. Details about the Game Pak production, cost, technical advantages and disadvantages is not suited to an article about the console itself. Either way, there's way too much information there (in pure word count), so it would be inappropriate to include so much in an overview article. CaseyPenk (talk) 22:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep I'm rather split on this one: while I think it's notable (IIRC N64 was the last major console to use cartridges when others were already switching to CD-ROM, which should lead to discussion about "why the Game Pak"), I'm not finding anything online. I feel WP:Article size/WP:UNDUE concerns are reasonable, as well. Ansh666 20:14, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• I found a helpful article written at the time with comparisons between Nintendo (cart) and Sony/Sega (CD-ROM) formats. Brought up some interesting points that we forget about today (e.g. the cost of a CD drive, the development of the 64 Disk Drive). I've incorporated some findings from that piece into the article. It would be great to add some more historical / legacy information to give a better context as to what the Game Pak is all about in the end. CaseyPenk (talk) 21:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• I'll see if I can find something, as well. I have a few books from a class that may have something, but I'd have to go dig those out first, and I'm not sure where they are. Ansh666 21:12, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Oh yeah, a general history of video games (e.g. Game Over although that's a bit more retro) would be helpful. Something that gives you an idea of the development of console technologies and formats over time. CaseyPenk (talk) 21:14, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• I found some retrospectives that mentioned the switchover from cartridges to discs. Now that I'm into it further I'm not sure if this is exactly what you think was lacking; let me know if you had a different idea in mind. I'm more than happy to address your or anyone else's concerns with this article. CaseyPenk (talk) 22:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• What I had in mind was, say, criticisms directed at solely the cartridge system, or something of that sort, so what you found in the EGM article is basically what I was thinking. I'm having trouble finding the books...this is when I wish I had a Ctrl-F for real life... Ansh666 22:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Lol I was just thinking the same.. I paged through a very lengthy article I wouldn't have bothered with otherwise to find the word cartridge. I also added some various other details about the Game Paks that I found during my search -- the quote from Howard Lincoln is an interesting one. CaseyPenk (talk) 22:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 15:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - While it could definitely use some cleanup, the system's use of cartridge over CD was defining characteristic of the console. (They lost key titles, like Final Fantasy 7, due to its memory constraints, while some multi-platform games would be considered better versions due to lack of loading times.) There's a lot to be said here, and I think it would cause WP:UNDUE issues to merge it back into the already-massive Nintendo 64 article. Sergecross73 msg me 15:21, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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