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The result was delete. Noting also the copyvio issue. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:13, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ngcoya clan[edit]

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No sources. No indication of notability per WP:N. Appears to contain original research (WP:OR). At best, redirect to Mpondo people, but the connection is tenuous based solely on the text of this article, as this clan offshoot is not really detailed in the Mpondo article. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 17:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:23, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:23, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I can't find anything in RS about Ngcoya except as a surname of authors of scholarly works. Unless there is WP:SIGCOV, WP cannot host clan genealogies (especially without a single source to ensure WP:V). –Austronesier (talk) 18:05, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No sources have been provided at all, and the content here is not particularly informative to readers unfamiliar with the topic. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• The topic is very notable amongst my whole clan, literally almost everyone I know in with my surname has been to this site several times. And the information about how it was created. And there is evidence backing it up, you can read up on the following sites to read it:

http://ngcai.blogspot.com/2008/09/praise-names-of-ngcoya.html?m=1

http://www.wakahina.co.za/listings/n/surname/notununu

http://dictionary.sensagent.com/ngcoya/en-en/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngcoyamilo (talk • contribs) 10:54, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The first is a blog and not a RS. Most of the content of the WP page was ripped verbatim from that blog, so this is a big WP:COPYVIO, and further not sufficient to establish notability. For the second, see WP:EXIST. The third source is an obvious WP:mirror of the WP article. –Austronesier (talk) 11:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Austronesier's assessment of the sources. http://dictionary.sensagent.com/ngcoya/en-en/ even says on the page, "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" to indicate that they got their content from here. The copyvio was introduced into the article in this edit and was removed but later re-added back. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Uncited junk in an unencyclopedic tone. Even if the subject is notable, this calls for WP:TNT. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.