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The result was Keep. CitiCat ^♫ 02:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Ahmed ElShiekh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Non-notable person. There are thousands of college and university deans around the world and this article does not indicate why this one should have an article. A notability tag was added in March and there has been little improvement since. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 20:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - no assertion of notability. No reliable sources provided. Searching via Google brings up nothing useful, at least in English. -- Whpq 20:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The obvious problem of systematic bias against non-English speaking countries means that lack of sources in English is not a sufficient reason for deletion. Espresso Addict 21:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • comment - I agree, and I did qualify that i could find none in English. And I'll happily change my opinion if the reliable sources can be found. -- Whpq 22:29, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 21:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Tentative keep. According to our article on it, 'the University of Khartoum is the most historically prestigious and selective university in Sudan', and thus its Dean is probably notable independent of other criteria. The Univ. of Khartoum website lists Prof. Elsiddig Ahmed ElMustafa ElSheikh (I'm assuming that this is the same person?) as Deputy Vice Chancellor and his English CV is available here: [1]. Espresso Addict See DGG's comments below & [2] 21:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The article is obsolete--he is now vice-chancellor, the chief executive officer, equivalent to President in the US tradition. The University of Khartoum, formerly Gordon College, is the original Western educational system Sudanese university. College presidents are notable. People get appointed to university administrative positions for a combination of academic, administrative , and sometimes political, demonstrated ability, and are thus likely to be notable. The article does need sources, but they do not have to be in English, nor do they have to be found on Google. His full name as usually written is Mohamed Ahmed Ali El-Shiekh, and that might help find references. He seems to have been dean of their medical school. "Prof. Elsiddig Ahmed ElMustafa ElSheikh" is someone else--the web page cited shows the pictures of the two. They don't even look related, and I thing ElShaikh & its equivalents can be used as an honorable addition to the name. DGG (talk) 22:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Trying to scan too quickly, sorry! Espresso Addict 22:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. As I found to my chagrin in an Australian V-C's AFD, Vice-Chancellor is indeed the Commonwealth equivalent of a US university president. (In the US, the word is definitely a secondary post.) There is strong precedent for keeping all college and university presidents. --Dhartung | Talk 02:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Dhartung. Antorjal 21:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.