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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 16:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A group of hentai fans whose only claim to notability is that they're translating some games into English. Fails WP:V, since the only sources for their claims are their own website and some other fansites; also fails WP:VAIN, since the page seems to have been created by a member of the group. If this information belongs in Wikipedia, it is as a footnote on the pages for the games in question, not as a separate article. ArcherXRin 11:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I vote Delete as nominator. ArcherXRin 11:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. They haven't actually even finished translating anything yet, never mind whether translating an obscure H-game is notable. --UsaSatsui 12:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge key facts into the articles on Tsukihime and Fate/stay night; the group is for real, and their acheivements are impressive, but I'm not sure the details can be verified to WP standards, so...
  As far as notability goes, there's no clear precedent on whether groups like this are considered notable for Wikipedia. I know RPGe survived an AfD, though in that case there was the influential Final Fantasy 5 translation to support them. But there are delete precedents too, like the overview of the history of fan translation. — Haeleth Talk 14:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this article -- as I stated in my vote in the AfD for Revolve (Translation Group), it strikes me that there do exists separate specialized wikis in which an article like this would not only be appropriate, it would be welcome. However, in the context of Wikipedia, I agree with the original poster that this article fails WP:V and WP:VAIN. Please also note my conflict of interest disclaimer in the AfD for Revolve (Translation Group). --Gp32 14:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom.  RasputinAXP  c 15:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge relevant information into Tsukihime or other related articles, but only if it can be established they've completed anything of note. As is, it seems to be more ifs and whens. Barneyboo (Talk) 15:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. RGTraynor 16:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete on V concerns. Kotepho 19:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, group is unrelated to the Tsukihime article so there's nothing to merge (although you could link to their project page at the bottom) Ashibaka tock 02:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete the article, although not under the articles of WP:V. The group is nearly under beta testing and they've already finished up their rewrite of Tsukihime. That can be seen under their home page. However, under articles WP:VAIN, is a completely different issue all together. However, I do not think, personally, that this is much of a problem. My only reason for voting delete is that the information about the team project is pretty excessive, and a merge is also unnecessary seeing as how both Tsukihime and Fate/stay night pages already have information on their cause anyway. There is no way to infer their works on Kara no Kyoukai due to lack of a Kara no Kyoukai page, but that can easily be solved by making one. Also, no offense but, I do not believe Mirror Moon is notable enough to have their own wiki page... Mirioki 03:34, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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