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The result was redirect‎ to Meki. Daniel (talk) 22:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Meki Catholic School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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not passed WP:N. ―  ☪  Kapudan Pasha (🧾 - 💬) 22:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Ethiopia. ―  ☪  Kapudan Pasha (🧾 - 💬) 22:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Meki, where the school is mentioned under the Catholic Church services heading. Article is unsourced but this source verifies the school's existence and may count towards GNG.[1]. (The source is probably better referenced in an article on Ethiopia's education system.). This from from the same website also has coverage of the school [2]. Note the organisation publishing these pieces helps support students attending the school, so some may question its independence. Rupples (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as non-notable and unreferenced for so many years. Suitskvarts (talk) 11:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Request relist - The week is up but I have just started looking at this. I have found a paper: [3] which talks about Meki Catholic Vicariate Schools. Reading this, it suggests there are several schools, but the page says it is the only senior high school, so it is likely that the paper refers to primary education that are feeders into this one. However it occurs to me that this may be the wrong name of the school. This may be hampering searches. This may be the only senior school in the region but it may still not be called, simply, Meki Catholic School as there are clearly many such schools. It is always harder to find information on such schools so perhaps we could have another week just to be sure that there is nothing. Having said that, at this stage, I support the redirect to Meki as an appropriate ATD that takes the reader to a page that mentions the school. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:21, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Happy to support this relist request. Rupples (talk) 10:57, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to honor the request and also because there is no consensus yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:17, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Leaning Keep but Redirect to Meki would also be an appropriate outcome based on source availability. I oppose delete. Thanks for the relist and the time to research this. I have ascertained that the school is indeed known as Meki Catholic School (or MCS) despite the fact that there are Catholic primary schools in Meki. There is limited information in sources, but there are a number of research papers that mention it. I tool a look at the five most promising of these, and produced the following source analysis:

Source assessment table: prepared by User:Sirfurboy
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://jriiejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/JRIIE-6-2-008.pdf	Research by the Catholic University of Eastern Africa	Published paper	~ The school is not the research subject but just one of the schools where quantitive data fed into the study.	~ Partial
https://www.dbpia.co.kr/Journal/articleDetail?nodeId=NODE02479405			~ The writer speaks of getting a job in the school but in the context of an ethnographic study of the town	~ Partial
https://search.proquest.com/openview/b7c32ea085f926e1880fcab2ac38d350/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y		A Ph.D. Thesis.	~ Meki school is one of those visited as part of the Phenomenological Study of High School Cultural Immersion Programs	~ Partial
http://thesisbank.jhia.ac.ke/id/eprint/5252	Jesuit Historical Institute in Africa	Unpublished MA thesis, which is nevertheless cited elsewhere, e.g. [4]	? Attempts to access the paper after registering for it lead to a "forbidden" message. Unable to review.	✘ No
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/lre.12111	Addis Ababa University	See https://doi.org/10.1111/lre.12111. Published by Wiley.	~ This is a study of the environmental perceptions of school students, including students at MCS. It is not about the school.	~ Partial
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)).

What this analysis demonstrates is that the school is significant enough that it is used for surveys, data or exchange visits as part of these various research topics. The papers do not, in themselves, meet SIGCOV, because in all the cases I was able to follow up, it was hard to say that the mentions amounted to significant coverage. There was not much to build the article from, based on these papers. And this was a more general problem. Searching news sources and elsewhere, there were sources (including social media, which would be counted as self published) that showed that the school exists and and is not insignificant, but did not afford enough information to actually write an article. And that is the problem. If this school were in the US, the UK or various other localities, I think it would be a shoe-in. It would be significant enough that it would garner keep votes. But on a strict evaluation of the sources, I haven't found quite enough to demonstrate it meets GNG. So where is the problem? Do we keep too many non notable schools? Or should we presume this one is notable, even though it is still not clear what we can say about it in the article? I really don't know! So keep or redirect is fine by me, but I think delete would be the wrong outcome. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 23:04, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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