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The result was delete. Flowerparty^☀ 01:25, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marco Lupis[edit]

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This was previously deleted under CSD A7. Essentially, the guy is a journalist, so there may be a lot of articles he has written to cite (as with all journalists), but there is no substantial media sources written about him, rather than by him. As such, I don't think he meets the threshold required for an article. There is also substantial evidence that the article has been written by the subject himself. See his Italian Wikipedia banning and Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Villa Tatti. Dominic·t 12:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Ghits (or other occurrences of a name), do not create notability, coverage does. MBisanz ^talk 12:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, quoting MBisanz. --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 12:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, quoting Roberto. --Henrykus ^talk 12:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henrykus (talk • contribs)
• Delete. Again. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the lack of reliable sources. Cunard (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Lot of nonsense: 1) the user "dominic" who open the deletion process, totally modified and "reversed" the whole article, erasing all the previously indicated citations about him, so it is totally false that " there is no substantial media sources written about him, rather than by him" as asserted by "dominic" herself.

Here the (incomplete) list of citations about him, previously indicated into the article and erased by "dominic":

Citations[edit]

• Kathleen J. Brahney, "East Timor: 'DAUNTING,' 'Dangerous' period ahead" in "United States Information Agency", Daily digest, GlobalSecurity.org
• Stephen Thibeault, "Philippines: Lucrative Hostage Trade Puts Spotlight On Abu Sayyaf Separatists", in "United States Information Agency", Military, GlobalSecurity.org
• "Nel ventre del Dragone - Intervista a Marco Lupis" ("Marco Lupis interviewed") - December 21, 2007
• Domenico De Gaetano, Il cinema di Peter Greenaway, 1995, ISBN 8871801121
• Giovanni Fiorentino, "L'occhio che uccide. La fotografia e la guerra: immaginario, torture, orrori", 2004, ISBN 8883533658, pag.17-18, 114; also on web here.
• Nina Betori, "Rosso sommerso", 2005, ISBN 8870638375, pag. 130; also on web here.
• Marco Strano, "Mauale di criminologia clinica", Firenze, 2003, ISBN 8884650852, pag. 371 also on web here.
• Massimo Franco, "Il Re della Repubblica", Firenze, 1997, pag. 93 also on web here
• Beatrice Guarneri, Mina Gregori, "Paragone: rivista mensile di arte figurativa e letteratura", 1994, pag. 142 also on web
• United States Foreign Broadcast Information Service "Daily Report", 1996, pag. 82, also on web
• Adriano Purgato, "Fobie: le nuove ossessioni del secolo XXI", Castelvecchi, 2006, pag. 59, also on web here
• Laura Giallombardo, "CAMBOGIA: quando si potrà ancora dormire senza paura?", in "Solidarietà Internazionale", 5/5/2009, on line
• "La SARS come non ve l’ha mai raccontata nessuno", in "Punto di vista", maggio 2003, on line
• "SARS Patient Zero: Chinese Doctor's Research Causes Epidemic"
• "Vuoto pneumatico"
• Marina Miranda, "I "documenti di Tian'anmen" e la successione a Jiang Zemin", in "Tuttocina.it"
• "Unit 731's Wikipedia article
• Eve Hillary, "Bird Flu or Cash Cow? The Pandemic Some Want to Have", Nov 10, 2008, on line
• Das Kulturmagazin 2002-11-11
• Das Kulturmagazin 2002-10-14))

2) the article about this journalist has been ALREADY submitted to a deletion procees and the result was keep].

3) there are no evidencies that the article has been written by the subject himsel, as asserted by the same "dominic", because there are no relations between this journalist and the cited links on italian wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.69.124.143 (talk) 14:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Actually his identity is confirmed via OTRS (# 2009010610014411 and others), so what are your proofs in stating he didn't create the article? Do you have any personal relationship with him? --Brownout ^(msg) 15:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I'm not an administrator in the wiki project, I have no idea what exactly contain this "ticket" and what can or can't be included in the same ticket.

Amyway, in my humble opinion, doesn't matter who wrote an article, in a process of evaluation of the article itself...

And you ignored the two other (and more relevant) questions:

1) Why "Dominic" previously erased all the proved and linked citations and then opened the delettion process, asserting that " there is no substantial media sources written about him ", assertion that is completely false?

2) For wich reason, if the article about this journalist has been ALREADY submitted to a deletion procees and the result was keep] he started a new deletion process ONCE AGAIN, considering that the article quality improved - in number of sources and links - after the keeping decision?. --91.81.229.76 (talk) 20:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's patently dishonest. Those citations that you claim are "about" you are no such thing. Those are a collection of articles written by yourself or citing those articles, not biographical. Dominic·t 08:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it isn't. The citations are not a collection of articles written by yourself. i.e., this is an interview TO him and ABOUT him: *"Nel ventre del Dragone - Intervista a Marco Lupis" ("Marco Lupis interviewed") - December 21, 2007, talking about him and his activity. Are you able to read the Italian language? I hope so because, if not, why are you proposing for deletion article on italian matters?

And please reply to my question: For wich reason, if the article about this journalist has been ALREADY submitted to a deletion procees and the result was keep] you started a new deletion process ONCE AGAIN, considering that the article quality improved - in number of sources and links - after the keeping decision?. Soemthing changed in the meantime? Do you got some personal problem against him?

--93.69.108.47 (talk) 10:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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