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The result was Keep. COI may be a reason to look more closely at an article, but is in itself never a reason to delete an article. Sources can have any language. Subject is notable. 10:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Mahshid Moshiri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Conflict of interest article (username that created it is the same as the article name) and non-notable that doesn't meet the guidelines for academics. The only source is not in english, therefore is of little use to the english wikipedia as a primary source establishing notability. — Ocatecir^T 05:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Per precedents at AfD and DRV, (e.g. Kelvin Kwan), reliable sources in languages other than English are fine. (Non-reliable sources, of course, are discounted no matter what language they're in). The strongest policy statement in this regard is Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources in languages other than English, which merely says that English-language sources should be used in preference to foreign-language sources if the English-language sources are of equal quality. Searching on the subject's name on Google in Persian gives some hits in reliable sources (newspapers in Iran, as well as BBC Persian); however many of these are just trivial mentions. [1] Will take me some time to read. Roman alphabet hits are mainly catalog listings of her books. cab 06:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —David Eppstein 16:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Conflict of interest and notability not established. --Crusio 19:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The current version of the page is written by me, not User:Mahshid Moshiri. BorzooB 18:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unless notability is established Corpx 22:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Conflict of interest. Keb25 14:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep She has written several dictionaries for Persian language. As an example, one of her dictionaries is listed as a specialised dictionary for this course, in the University of London. BorzooB 18:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep "editor-in-chief of The Great Persian Encyclopedia" if this work is as important as it sounds, she is certainly notable. I cant tell much about it though, as the ref. is in Persian.[2] BB, can you translate for us? DGG (talk) 07:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That page is an old page (on this Iranian academic website) for the contact info of that encyclopedia. It refers to her as معاون پژوهشي (Research Vice President) of that foundation. I guess she is not involved in that project anymore. Its current website is http://www.bdbf.org.ir, and its current trustee board mostly consists of political figures in the government. BorzooB 23:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the question then is whether she has an important editorial role in it. I think she'd have to be editor in chief or one of the principal editors--from what you say, there is not such evidence.DGG (talk) 03:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Research Vice President was an important role in that foundation. That foudation publishes a series of specialized dictionaries and encyclopedias and she has been the editor-in-chief of some of them (including this one, first volume, letter آ). Nonetheless, my main argument for her notability is the long list of her publications and the fact that her publications are used in academic courses such as this. She is considered an expert in Persian lexicography and her collective body of work is significant and well-known. BorzooB 04:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete WP:NN--AmerHisBuff 09:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Read the guidelines for academics. she has written several dictionaries and at least one of them is used as "required reading" for an academic course in a reputable university. BorzooB 23:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, long list of works in WorldCat[3]. Should it be renamed Mahshīd Mushīrī? John Vandenberg 01:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 01:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Characters such as "ī" are only used in the strict Perso-Arabic transliteration. The standard transliteration of her name is "Mahshid Moshiri". BorzooB 01:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.