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The result was redirect to Ron Browz. Content may be merged at editorial discretion. Regards, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:31, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Etherboy[edit]

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Non-notable album, violates WP:CRYSTAL, and has only one source given that actually refers specifically to the album, and it only gives out a release date, the other sources are a music video which i'm pretty sure violates copyrights, a broken link, an article about Jim Jones, and a link to a song download. I would not be opposed to incubating the article either, however. Str8cash (talk) 23:54, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE There is a huge chunk of disputed content and sources. Go through page history to find it and take that into mind before casting your vote. STAT- Verse 03:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why, when he thinks it should be deleted? SGGH ping! 12:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I refer to when someone create a future album and this fails WP:NALBUM, the first thing to do is redirect it to a proper article e.g. Nightmare (album). If merging doesn't work, well nominate it for deletion. TbhotchTalk C. 18:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - There's precious little to merge. Virtually all of the reliably sourced material is already in Ron Browz. I'm not opposed to a redirect, of course. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:32, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lush (programming language)[edit]

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I can't find significant coverage for this programming language. Joe Chill (talk) 23:38, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Looks like a manual. Truthsort (talk) 23:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, I can't find any reliable sources. --Nuujinn (talk) 13:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:32, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flowchart4j[edit]

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I can't find significant coverage for this software. Joe Chill (talk) 23:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge, speedy close. If there's a previous consensus that says the article should be merged if no notability can be demonstrated, then no new AfD is necessary - any new material should go to the other article instead, and that can be handled without admin assistance. (Full disclosure: got referred to here due to being the original article creator way back then) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 07:51, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legend of the Green Dragon[edit]

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No WP:N established by article or sources, no reliable, descriptive sources found. Notability is not inherited from Legend of the Red Dragon. Slight promo tone. Seems this article has existed for very, very long and there are ghits on it, but none establish notability.  Hellknowz  ▎talk  23:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note that no merger took place after previous Merge result. Hellknowz  ▎talk  23:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 20:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Teamwork[edit]

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Pure original research. Delete. Horselover Frost (talk · edits) 22:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • That policy explains at length that size if not an issue and that we should not oppose encyclopedic stubs on this ground. Per WP:VAGUEWAVE, please explain how this article fails that policy as just pointing to the policy is not sufficient. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • this draft has more and better sources than the team article. Development of these and related articles such as collaboration and cooperation is best discussed outside the narrow scope of AFD which is purely to empower an administrator to use the delete function. Colonel Warden (talk) 18:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • If a topic is notable enough to write a book about it — and there are already over 700 books about teamwork — then why wouldn't we have a summary article about the topic here? Please provide a policy-based reason. Colonel Warden (talk) 06:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep- Keep per WP:COMMONSENSE. It's clear by this nomination where wikipedia is heading...Smallman12q (talk) 21:59, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. clear consensus with support within policy for keep (non-admin closure) Off2riorob (talk) 23:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia-Cumberland Academy[edit]

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Only one outside source from minor foundation which does not have wikipedia article. Does not have any outside articles showing notability WikiManOne (talk) 22:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Off2riorob (talk) 23:17, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Jones (personal trainer)[edit]

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This person appears not to be of any interest for who he is, only as alleged witness and accuser to two individuals which do have Wikipedia articles and clearly are notable in their own respect. His mention in those two articles ought to be quite sufficient. meco (talk) 21:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Akirn (talk) previously User:Icewedge 22:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cardiodontics[edit]

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Unverifiable. I am unable to locate any reliable scholarly sources that use this term. Delete. Horselover Frost (talk · edits) 21:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn Fences&Windows 01:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Abay, Almaty[edit]

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Village which does not meet WP:NOTABILITY. I propose that information about this village and all other small settlements nominated should be placed in a table in the article Almaty Province. Claritas (talk) 20:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are similar in terms of content:

Akbulak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Akdala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Akkaynar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Akozek (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Aksengir (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Akshiy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

and all other stub articles on villages in Almaty Province#Settlements.


The problem is that expansion is impossible as there aren't any sources available. It's a bit WP:CRYSTAL to suggest that we should keep the articles simply because there will be articles on them in the future. The current articles provide the reader with no more information than a table on Almaty Province could. Furthermore, if there are no non-trivial mentions in sources, these articles seriously don't meet WP:NOTABILITY. Claritas (talk) 20:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And you've honestly looked for sources in Russian and Kazakh have you? I'll ask my good friend Ezhiki tomorrow. I'd bet there is mention of several of the settlements you are proposing in Soviet censuses and papers. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A mention of a town in a census would not be "significant coverage". I've searched some of the village names through [3] and didn't find any significant coverage in reliable third-party sources. Claritas (talk) 20:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
By your criteria we should delete thousands of articles about towns in the developing world just because our friend google doesn't have anything on them except a map. These places are verifiable. Look at Abay on a map. I agree that these stubs need expanding and need blessing with sources, but Kazakhstan is not exactly number 1 on the web for information... If we were to strictly go by sources we would have few articles about places in Africa, Asia and Latin America.... Understand that in countries such as Kazakhstan lack of sources is not always an indicator of lack of notability. Trust me on this. Taldykorgan for instance in Almaty Province has a population of 118,000 and I couldn't find much at all to expand it into a full article. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The criteria is called WP:NOTABILITY and it applies to all articles. It doesn't matter whether the information is verifiable, it matters whether these settlements are notable. Unless someone can provide sources indicating notability, every single one of these minor settlement stubs should be deleted. And from my point of view, that would be good for Wikipedia. We need quality, not quantity. Claritas (talk) 21:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of content is generally confused by article deletionists such as yourself as lacking NOTABILITY. Taldykorgan for instance in Almaty Province has a population of 118,000 and I couldn't find much at all to expand it into a full article. No solid sources in english on the web, see this. Nothing but computer generated sites and useless databases/blogs, none of these sources indicate notablility. Do we delete that article too based on your criteria? Is it likely that actually these places are notable and are certainly notable to the people who live in them everyday but actually we are hampered by uneven coverage on the Internet in terms of information? Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are enough sources concerning Taldykorgan for notability to be demonstrated. The same is not true of Abay, Almaty or any of the other minor settlements in the template. From my point of view, notability is conferred by significant coverage in reliable sources, not simply a suspicion that it is inherently notable due to the amount of inhabitants. Claritas (talk) 21:13, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is little evidence online to indicate much about the notability of Taldykorgan. But I ask the average wikipedian here. Would they consider a city with 118,000 people notable? Would they consider small towns with several thousand worthy of encyclopedic coverage. Because you can be certain that many of these settlements you;ve nominated, being in Kazakhstan's most populated province have significant numbers of people living in them. Why is a stub on a small town with several thousand in Kazakhstan any less notable than a tiny village in the UK or US? DO you genuinely think that because the tiny village in the UK has a lot of sources written about it that it is more notable than Taldykorgan. See Ambrosden. Village in England I wrote a few weeks back and promoted to GA. Judging by content and web sources this village is obviously more notable than Taldykorgan which has nothing but databases and computer generated sites on the Internet. I strongly disagree, I know Taldykorgan is ten times as anotable a settlement but the sources reflect the opposite. You are failing to take into account one crucial factor in determining notability in the developing world, that access to sources is generally a very poor judge of the scale and notability of the subject. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK heres an example.. Lets use Ushtobe as an example, a settlement with hundreds upion hundreds of houses and 23 964 in 2009 according to Russian wikipedia (equally unsourced and sparse an article). This is a substantial town in Almaty Province yet our friend google strongly says this is not notable. Now lets try Angus Cobblestone Farmhouse and Barn Complex. Oh and suddenly it is covered in reliable sources, so obviously this farmhouse and barn in New York state is more notable than Ushtobe. OK lets go with Abay, Almaty. Viewing the satellite map of the settlement we see hundreds of houses. It is possible that is might be as notable, more notable than Angus Cobblestone Farmhouse and Barn Complex, a mere barn? I think I've made my point, perhaps others will see what I mean. I agree with that a good encyclopedia needs solid sources and quality content but this is not always possible to have an even number of sources on the Internet. Lets try another at randomlets try Akbulak, Kazakhstan. Lets view on a google map. Its a western suburb of Almaty, and has amajor Russian Orthodox Church in it. Such a church would generally be notable enough in any English town to have its own article, let alone an article on the suburb. But because there is little online about it they should be dismissed? OK lets google searchAkbulak Micro District its other name, see here. Some mention of it on Kazakhstan based sites but little on it despite it being a section of the city. This site says something about the "microdistrict" in southwest of Almaty as being areas of business/residential growth from the 1960, and this says something about the streets and development in Akbulak. Seemingly notable but what do you know, little online about them... Did you even bother to check every single one for sources in Russian and Kazakh that you blindly nominated before trying to put them into the bin? It would seem they could all be expanded even despite the lack of sources on the web.... This nomination is a waste of time. The time I've spent arguing the case that these places are adequate settlements I could have tried to expand those which do have at least some sources available. Wikipedia would be better off trying to have these articles expanded rather than deleted. Verifiable, inhabited places are generally within our guidlines are they not? I genuinely hope these places develop in terms of web content... As it stands they can be expanded, look at Akbulak, Kazakhstan.... Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:29, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well good luck in trying to delete them. Category:Cities, towns and villages in Kyrgyzstan articles are even shorter perhaps, it wasn't me who created them either. I think you'll find there is a wide consensus that populated places are regarded as notable. You certainly have apoint though that they need expanding into something worthwhile and that very few of them in their present state are up to a decent standard. Unfortunately we suffer from a wide number of sources and editors working on such countries. Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And of course when expanding articles on villages it leads to connection to other articles and further growth like Kapchagay Reservoir which I started this morning....I'm pretty certain they are all encyclopedic... Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Akirn (talk) previously User:Icewedge 22:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy Webb[edit]

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Timothy Webb does not meet the notability requirements of either a general biography or a political biography. Wikipeterproject (talk) 18:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawing per findings of Jaol---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 22:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Liz Lieu[edit]

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Non-notable poker player. No final table finishes at the WSOP, WPT, or EPT--let alone wins. Less than a million dollars in total winnings. ---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 18:01, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. None of the stated reasons for deleting are valid reasons for deleting. Poker results are irrelevant, only coverage in third party relaible sources, of which at least one currently is in external links. 2005 (talk) 20:58, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then get in there and show some coverage that is not incidental. Right now, the only thing on the page is a Hendon Mob result, which is made for just about every poker player out there. Her career is very non-descript and coverage of her is very minimal. EG short short bio's that are typical of thousands of poker players or non-reliable sources.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 22:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The point here is your criteria for reccomending deletion were flawed, and she clearly merits an article from coverage: Cardplayer, Poker Verdict, Pokerplayer newspaper for starters, plus many other lower level sites like the ones currently in the external links of her article. The article can also clearly be improved, but in this case the existing external links should have been enough to show plenty of coverage. 2005 (talk) 23:28, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ooops, I had already withdrawn this nom, but I used the wrong template at the top... as for her meriting coverage, that is still debatable---but not one which I wish to pursue right now. Her notability is on par with a minor poliitician. A few articles does not notability make... local and state politicians have coverage, but do not rise to the level of keeping.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 00:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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National Security Study Memorandum 200 is enough justification for this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brokendata (talkcontribs) 19:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]