The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Apparently there are quite a few sources, so the notability argument for deletion doesn't fly. Mango juice^talk 14:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Wachs[edit]

This former (current?) radio host is simply not sufficiently notable. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 14:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related articles for deletion for the same reason:

Eric Von Haessler (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Regular Guys (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Delete All Surely, every morning show does not require its own article. Yes, Wikipedia is not paper, but what makes these guys important? There is no assertion of notability in the article. --Cyrus Andiron 15:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is guy is beyond terrible and isn't worthy of a page on Wikipedia, nor is he worth having on the radio. Awful. Bluefield 03:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Articles should NOT BE DELETED The Wikipedia is not an editorial space, it is an encyclopedia. Larry Wachs, Eric von Haeassler, and the Regular Guys show were unarguably a relevant part of Atlanta culture for 8 years in a city of 5 million people, for better or for worse. The argument for their removal is unfounded. Certainly Wikipedia does not intend to remove the biographies of actors whose television shows have long since past, or writers who no longer write. Further, Larry Wachs continues to spend time on the air, most recently in New York City, an area of 19 million people, on WFNY-FM. To state he is not sufficiently notable is incorrect. These articles should stay.

Well lets be accurate, he is serving as a substitute host for JV and Elvis while those two are out on suspension due to the Chinese Food Controversy. He isn't a regular DJ in NY, so that part of your argument is spurious at best. Bluefield 18:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DO NOT DELETE this article. There is no reason to delete it, Larry Wachs as an important ant notable radio personality, why souldnt he have an entry. the Regualr Guys show was huge in Atlanta for a long time, thus he is important.

Under what notability criteria are these people notable? Please at least try to explain rather than just assert. --Nlu (talk) 18:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete. They are notable not only for being a strong morning drive radio force in the #9 major market in the U.S., but for their suspension(s) and firing and the part that they play in the latest FCC war on free speech. Von Haessler continues to be a player in the Atlanta media market while Wachs has expanded his reach to NYC. True, he is not in a regular gig, but it *could* be a lead in to a regular gig. Mikieminnow 21:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How does this satisfy any of the Wikipedia criteria for notability? --Nlu (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"A topic is notable if it has received significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic."

The show and each of the hosts have gotten coverage in many national publications.Mikieminnow 13:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Care to add some citations showing that this is true? --Nlu (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3616611.stm

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/614271991.html?dids=614271991:614271991&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=APR+10%2C+2004&author=&pub=The+Washington+Post&desc=Clear+Channel+Fires+2+Over+Mike+Mistake&pqatl=google
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=AT&p_theme=at&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=114FC655D741CFC8&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.15.229.30 (talk) 13:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The fact that you people are arguing over their notability and using opinions of whether they are funny or not as arguments proves that they are notable enough to be in wikipedia. Again, this is an encyclopedia, not an editorial space.

That someone is willing to argue someone/something is notable does not make that someone/something notable. I've looked at the links cited. Nothing indicates that these folks had anything but 15 minutes of fame, as far as the nation is concerned, and their own importance in the Atlanta market is still not shown. By the standard of the advocate for non-deletion, someone like Michael David Schreiber would be considered notable. --Nlu (talk) 15:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do not Delete Larry's show has just taken over for JV and Elvis on Free FM, making him a part of the national debate on radio hosts getting fired for innapropriate comments.

Do Not Delete The Regular Guys show as well as Wachs and von Haessler themselves have received much coverage from independent media sources: http://freedomfolks.blogspot.com/2006/10/freedom-folks-exclusive-interview-with.html http://atlanta.about.com/cs/celebrityprofiles/a/madpundit.htm http://www.atlantajewish.com/content/062005/coverstory/larrywachs.html http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/accessatlanta/radiotalk/entries/2005/09/27/sept_27_radio_n.html http://www.nique.net/issues/2000-03-17/entertainment/4 38.112.10.6 20:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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