The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Well there's certainly consensus that at least some of this material should be kept somewhere! While I think it was nominated in good-faith (I'd imagine the merge !voters would agree) the rationale was certainly lacking. I think the merge-ers and the keep-ers are generally in agreement: there's cleanup and improvement needed. I think the arguments for keeping the current location are stronger, especially as this is worked on; this could be a candidate for a merge down the line if the article merits it, but for now it seems consensus prefers this is kept as a separate article. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Killer whales in popular culture[edit]

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I wanted to delete this page because it seems unnecessary and poorly written. Thenabster126 (talk) 21:14, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment please could an admin tag this as a 2nd nomination as there was a previous nomination in 2010 which was closed as KEEP. I’m not sure that the topic is significant or important but if it is, this article does it little justice. It seems a fairly random grab-bag of stuff rather than a thoroughly researched and coherent presentation of a topic. Mccapra (talk) 23:21, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:43, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:43, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:43, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Very selective merge of a few items to Killer_whale#Relationship_with_humans. This is indeed a grab-bag of some relevant stuff (almost all already included in the section in the main article), a lot of irrelevance (Phoenix Wright, my aunt Fanny...), and some random general natural history paragraphs. I'm surprised this stuck around so long in this state. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Why should this page be deleted? killer whales do indeed play many roles in popular culture, its an interesting subject, i vote to keep it SpaceMusk (talk) 17:09, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@SpaceMusk: See WP:GNG. In short, the article lacks at least three non-primary sources which are specifically about "Killer whales in popular culture." Sources specifically about killer whales (but not in popular culture) and sources that are about popular culture (but not specifically about killer whales) do not add up to sources specifically about "Killer whales in popular culture. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Selective merge Excessively detailed and unnecessarily specific examples. Reywas92^Talk 21:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and improve. There are a reasonably large number of fictional depictions of killer whales to examine. bd2412 T 03:40, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Killer whale#Relationship with humans, if indeed there is anything reliable enough to be worth keeping and not there already. The section is detailed, well-structured, well-cited, and well-illustrated, which is more than can be said for this sorry article. I would not oppose the whole section being made into a Killer whales in culture (not just pop. culture) article, and the existing long section being reduced to a well-cited summary, but that article would not be anything like the current one. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:23, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per Reywas92, Chiswick Chap or rewrite completely. Mosaicberry (talk) 23:48, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I agree with Mosaicberry that this needs a complete rewrite. But SpaceMusk is certainly right that the topic satisfies WP:GNG, and a satisfactory exploration of this topic would certainly overburden Killer whale#Relationship with humans. To demonstrate this, I have added a further reading section to Killer whales in popular culture citing six academic studies that substantially discuss killer whales in popular culture. Alarichall (talk) 23:30, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep . I agree with bd2412 and Alarichall . My preference would be expand and improve the article and to change the format to the style used in Mermaids in popular culture . Unoc (talk) 09:21, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge or Keep With more sources, like bd2412 said, the article could be kept, but I would not oppose a merge, but considering the high interest in expanding the article keep still seems like the right choice.Garlicolive (talk) 14:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.