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The result was merge to Green in Islam. Black Kite (talk) 11:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Color/Principles clearly states that "Wikipedia may include articles on colour names only where there is sufficient notable and verifiable information available to write a non-stub article on aspects of the use of the color name." (emphasis added) There is already an article which describes the importance of green in Islam and there is hardly any other information in this article which is not present in Shades of green. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 09:49, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Article is recent, it was created few days ago, it should be given some time, to get expanded and to get attention from the editors. I am looking for more references and will expand it, but the Article should be given time. Faizan (talk) 09:55, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Articles that are not notable won't become notable in few days. If you think that you need time to expand the article, move it to a userspace draft and then expand it. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 10:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It will be expanded in the mainspace. Faizan (talk) 10:08, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but with no references whatsoever, don't expect the article to stay. TheStrikeΣagle 10:12, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Green in Islam, this is just a fork of that article. Darkness Shines (talk) 10:22, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose The Article is new, it should be improved instead of deletion. Faizan (talk) 10:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect Unsourced and just a modified clone of Green in Islam TheStrikeΣagle 10:33, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a clone of Green in Islam, there is nothing common. The Article Green in Islam is for the importance of Islamic Green. Faizan (talk) 10:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh really!? The second paragraph of the article only signifies the importance of green in Islam and is rather similar to the lead sentence of Green in Islam.Cross-check. TheStrikeΣagle 10:40, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes really! Go through it again, Islamic Green just gives the color coordinates. Faizan (talk) 10:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think I said, the paragraph...not the template..You still didn't get my point TheStrikeΣagle 10:52, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the paragraph cannot be empty! It contains meaningful info. Faizan (talk) 10:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Faizan I have already told you that we don't have articles to just tell the color coordinates. Your comments prove that you have no material to add to this article. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 12:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect This article describes a specific shade as Islamic Green whose hex color code is #009900. In general I know that the green repersents Islam, but which shade actually represent Islam I don't ever heard. Could you please tell me where do you get this specific shade as Islamic green? Moreover you have added this color shade on Shades of green without any references. I have searched over google, but doesn't say any thing about this specific green shade. I think it should be redirected to Green in Islam.--FreemesM ^(talk) 12:13, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have presented my point of view already, the article Islamic Green, can be expanded, and will be expanded, and it should be kept, it has no relation with Green in Islam. Faizan (talk) 13:52, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And how would that be done? I can't find any source for this topic. I hope that you are not planning to write a book on Islamic Green and then use it as a source. In short, move the page to userspace if you are so much sure that you can expand this non-notable article. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 14:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a comment, a quick Google seems to suggest more references to Islamic Green having a hex code of #009000. So even the sole (unverified) "fact" in the article appears to be highly debatable. Richard3120 (talk) 01:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy deletion declined, The speedy deletion request has also been declined, please see the article's history. Faizan (talk) 14:07, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Articles can be speedy deleted only when they come under a specified rules. It does not means that the article cannot be deleted by other means (Afd, PROD). ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 14:14, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jain, it was better that you had discussed with me. The Article Islamic Green just tells about the collour coordinates, and Green in Islam its importance. Faizan (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Appears like a pretty clear Redirect (alternatively delete). It might be worth consider the Pakistan Green article, as well. And I am not sure Islamic and Pakistan Greens should be included in the Shades of Green article either, if we don't get any sources. Iselilja (talk) 14:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Are they not shades? Many other shades are also without reference! Then delete "Indian Green" too! Faizan (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, there were many other unreferenced shades in that article. I am striking out my comment about Shades of Green. Iselilja (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Already voted redirect, FFS [1] That is the argument to keep? Darkness Shines (talk) 20:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Green in Islam. Both articles are fairly short, and anything that needs to be said about this particular shade can be said in the Green in Islam article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:00, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• I understand the argument that one article is about the shade (in this case called 'Islamic' green) while other describes its significance in a particular religion. However I am in favor of merge because; a)both articles have very little content online or in literature and even after fully expanded and detailed I do not see them beyond 'start' b)the purpose is to keep it simple and understandable for readers, I will be very confused as an outsider jumping between two articles which appear similar but are presented as different topics. The merged article can start by describing the color (technical details) and then a section on its significance in Islam. Samar ^Talk 11:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S: Before anyone asks, I came here from Faizan's page who is on my watchlist because of our recent interaction.

An argument against merging is that the Islamic Green article is unsourced, Iselilja (talk) 09:06, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/Redirect to Green in Islam per nom and others. Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 06:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What is this 'others'? It should be kept. Faizan (talk) 13:54, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It means the rationale of all the other users combined....it is valid... TheStrikeΣagle 14:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Seems like some kind of WP:POVFORK--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 19:20, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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