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The result was keep. Neıl ☄ 10:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I Am Rich

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At best, this should be in App Store. At worst, it should be deleted on the basis that it's no more notable than Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barry Bonds 714th home run. It's received it's five minutes of fame and in a year, no one's going to care. Misterdiscreet (talk) 17:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let me move that over here. ViperSnake151 13:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, this is an ongoing issue currently, and deleting it before a major development could be unnecessary work for everyone.

In short: I vote to keep it, or at least compromise and merge it with an appropriate article. Anthony cargile (talk) 02:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So you're proposing WP:INTERESTING and WP:USEFUL be violated? Well, here's another proposal - your vote should be ignored per WP:JUSTAVOTE Misterdiscreet (talk) 19:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do a Google search for Barry Bonds 714th home run. 47,800 hits on websites like espn.go.com, foxnews.com, msnbc.com, cbsnews.com, sfgate.com, etc. Plenty of third party reliable sources. But it got deleted all the same because of WP:NEWS and WP:IINFO. Third party citations, alone, are insufficient if they are of a transitory nature. And yes - despite your claims to the contrary, it does, per the policies I have just cited, "matter if most people forget about it next year or not". But I suppose the "Itup is always right" policy trumps even those? Misterdiscreet (talk) 12:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't speak for Barry Bonds because I don't give a damn about baseball, but I suppose that a merge was reasonable in that case. However, I do care for internet phenomena and I think this is a notable one and that merging it into the article about the store where it was sold is not a good solution. Note that I said that it doesn't matter if most people forget about it. I'm sure not everyone will forget about it. Why do you have to link essentially twice to the same policy? "Not news" is just a bullet point of "IINFO". --Itub (talk) 12:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Saying that "Not news" is just a bullet point of "IINFO" is like saying that even linking to "IINFO" is just a bullet point of WP:N. Also, check out Iraq War. The "Contractors dead" section of the information box has three citations. How is my citing two articles on wikipedia policy any different than that article providing three citations?
That said, I do detect a hint of WP:RECENTISM on your part, and maybe even some WP:ILIKEIT Misterdiscreet (talk) 14:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My point was that you were linking to the same section of the policy page twice, perhaps pretending that they are different to make it look like there are "twice as many policies" behind your argument. But that's just a guess. WP:N is a completely different page, so it has nothing to do with my point. I also see you also like linking to essays... I think you should know that the strength of an argument is not proportional to the number of links to WP: pages it contains. But anyway, I'll bite. Yes, this is recent news. Perhaps in some cases it can be too much, but recentism in general is not wrong in my opinion when it leads to new articles; it is only wrong when it leads to unbalanced articles on topics with non-recent histories. As an analogy, devoting half of the article on China to the Olympic games would be an example of "bad recentism", while having more articles on the athletes participating in the 2008 olympics than in the 1900 olympics is "good recentism" that results from the easier accessibility of information about the recent athletes. After all, Wikipedia is not paper. As for WP:AADD, it has some useful advice in parts, but it is also a great collection of strawman examples that are very often misapplied. This is going to be my last reply here. I'll just a kind suggestion: you don't need to fight with every "voter" who disagrees with your nomination. Just let everyone speak, and then the consensus will emerge in the end. Trust me, I won't mind if the consensus doesn't go my way and the article is deleted. I have other things to worry about. --Itub (talk) 15:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep. Meh. The Barry Bonds' 714th home run analogy doesn't quite work because that article very neatly merges into existing articles. This one relates to a number of other topics (The App Store, online scams, iPhone, Apple, etc.) without falling completely within them. It's about the right length (maybe a touch too long). - Richfife (talk) 23:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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