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The result was redirect. Sr 13 00:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hopoate

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Unreferenced neologism referring to the last name of a rugby player. Violates WP:WINAD (I'd say hoax but the event did happen), and 'ouch!' besides. Eliz81 ^(talk)^(contribs) 09:49, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It is referenced now and the Melbourne Age did a story in 2004 about the term being used in a Hollywood film [1]. This was a big story in Australia at the time and has entered into the language in that part of the world. It could otherwise be merged into the rugby players article. Nick mallory 10:31, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to provide the references. Clearly a notable event by a notable person, but the articles you've provided don't have evidence of 'pulling a Hopoate' in common parlance, but rather point to the notability of the event itself. Perhaps Hopoate's biography here could be updated with the mention of the slang term, but I'm still not convinced it warrants a separate article. Could you provide some citations of its use? Eliz81 ^(talk)^(contribs) 11:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom Harlowraman 11:20, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm afraid it is a non-notable neologism. While the incident itself was widely notable, the noun Hopoate simply isn't notable. There's no mention of its usage as a noun in any of the references provided. Recurring dreams 11:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge content somewhere per User:Recurring dreams. I've heard of the technique istelf regarding wrestling and martial arts, but the "Hopoate" term is clearly non-notable. -- Futurano 12:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to John Hopoate. The incident is referred to in there. Capitalistroadster 03:29, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to John Hopoate as proposed by Capitalistroadster. The reference doesn't back up the neologism claim. John Hopoate is notable as is his on-field behaviour, but there is no need for an unsourced standalone article like this one (WP:HOAX springs to mind also - Hopoate certainly did "hopoate" people, but I doubt the term is in common use).Euryalus 04:54, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per those advocating that. It's a shame, since I know the term was used (and as a verb, regardless of what the article says) by several people I know. There's even a sculpture in Brisbane which is nicknamed "the Hopoate Memorial" by certain individuals. Not that that counts a fig in terms of what we'd need for this article, since there don't seem to be any sources backing my claims. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:54, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Tne term is certainly not in common use. A beat-up in a newspaper article does not make it so. —Moondyne 10:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. To "do/pull a Hopoate" (I've never heard it used as a verb directly) is indeed a common expression even here in WA where rugby is a non-event - the poor guy will probably never be remembered by most my age for his actual *rugby* skills! - but it is a neologism and shoudl be redirected to the main article. Zivko85 07:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Capitalistroadster :: maelgwn - talk 10:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
ReDir Per CapRoad. Twenty Years 12:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
'Keep' - just tonight watching the Sports News came a piece about a rugby league player who 'grabbed a handful of his opponent's testicles' and my immediate thought turned to the phrase Hopoate - leading to this discussion. It may not be in extremely wide useage - but then again this particular pecadillo is quite unusual and certainly will be associated with John Hopoate evermore. I am sure that if any sports person assaults an opponent in this fashion it will certainly invoke memories of another 'Hopoate'. BTW - this is unusual enough to have caused me to create an account and take time to offer my view. Thanks. Narky66 13:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC) narky66[reply]

That doesn't actually prove anything. The fact that you personally think about Hopoate when someone does something vaguely like what he did only shows that that's what you think. Now, if the newsreader had said "The player then did a Hopoate by grabbing a handful of his opponent's testicles", that would be something. The fact that Hopoate did what he did is covered in his article already. Additionally, please note that the best place to respond to an AfD is at the bottom of the discussion, with your signature after your comment. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 21:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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