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The result was redirect to Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels. Star Mississippi 01:01, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject is not an important or widespread term, or even the primary topic for the page title, which more commonly refers to hexaethyl tetraphosphate pathways in chemistry. The only mentions of the subject are trivial ones that reference its in-house usage by Israeli security forces, and Wikipedia is not a repository/dictionary of in-house security or intelligence service terminology. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:41, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Egypt and Israel. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:41, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Nominator removed several sources from the article (now restored) that reference the subject, two of which they falsely claimed did not mention it. This Walla one specifically describes the subject: "Another possibility is that the terrorists who carried out today's attack reached the Israel-Egypt border from Gaza via the "Het route". Het route, in its operational name, is an axis through which terrorists infiltrate Israel from the southern Gaza Strip. The axis starts in the Palestinian Rafah area, passes through the tunnels dug under the "Philadelphia" axis on the border of the Gaza Strip with Egypt, and reaches the Egyptian Rafah. From there, the terrorists move along the Israeli-Egyptian border on roads that allow them to enter Israeli territory due to the lack of a fence." Number 57 15:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Whoops. Yes, made a mistake with the ICT source, though still can't see any mention of the subject (by name as a term) in the Walla piece. However, the ICT source is just a reprint of the Israel Security Agency's 2006 report, so is hardly an independent reliable secondary source of any kind. As mentioned above, it is just an intelligence agency using its in-house terminology - something which the same intelligence agency is a primary source for (no help with notability): it says it right there in the quote: "operational name". And almost all of the mentions remain entirely trivial. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:11, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  I've translated the Walla piece above. The first sentence in the final paragraph in the original Hebrew is "אפשרות נוספת היא שהמחבלים שביצעו את הפיגוע היום הגיעו אל גבול ישראל-מצרים מעזה באמצעות "ציר ה-ח'".", with the reference to the Het route (ציר ה-ח) bolded. Number 57 16:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels and mention it there. It amounts to a use of the tunnels. This is a piece of military jargon that there does not seem to be an awful lot more to say about beyond what is already on the page. SpinningSpark 17:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels as it seems to have no independent notability. The use of a bit of jargon doesn't establish notability. Zero^talk 02:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect per above. Quantum XYZ (chat) 14:23, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.