The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. (ESkog)^(Talk) 16:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Girls At The Cairo National Stadium[edit]

Self-promotion GrAfFiT^{Talk Contribs} 08:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. BoojiBoy 13:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep'. Notable, controversial news item. Parsssseltongue 16:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Only one article in the local supplement of a newspaper, other mentions being a forum post and a sport website article written by the author himself. Additionnally, the article contains a lenghty "letter" from the author. Wikipedia is not a press release repository.. GrAfFiT^{Talk Contribs} 16:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep Yes, this is self-promotion and the article should be rewritten. Yet the documentary gained some real interest across national boundaries, including in a large country like Egypt. I think therefore that it is notable, but only by points. gidonb 18:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Delete per nom. The lengthy letter is blatant soapboxing. The film may have some notability, but it is not being expressed appropriately, so I cannot tell. If its only notability is this spat with the papers, which results in this soapboxing while painting the film as if it's the focus of the article, then I think it has to go (WP:NOT A4). --DaveG12345 23:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC) (see below) --DaveG12345 03:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per GrAfFiT Resolute 02:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. -- GWO
• Weak Delete really nn movie (I am from Israel). --Haham hanuka 14:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Self promotion of NN amateur video clip. Noon 18:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment For a related nomination, please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ilan the Security Guard gidonb 18:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Some cleanup has taken place, and it's much better without the letter rant, but the vanity remains for me. The reader is told the film is "created by artist and filmmaker Nimrod Kamer", then told "Nimrod Kamer, creator of the video, is an Israeli filmmaker and journalist", and then "creator Nimnrod Kamer" gets a third full citation. Is this article about a notable film, or a vanity piece for the director? An introductory mention is fine, of course, but thereafter it's surely just "Kamer" or "the director", since we already know who he is and what he does, and this article purports to be about the film itself and its controversy? Just a GF observation. --DaveG12345 22:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I changed that as well. I agree with you that the refs below are not helpful for establishing notability. I am fine with any outcome. gidonb 15:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• strong keep it is a scandal with over 20 mentions in all sorts of blogs such as -
  • A man will die, but not his ideas.

Monday, March 06, 2006. Even the Israeli press got interested. Girls at The Cairo National Stadium on Google Video. Posted by A :: 3:06 AM :: 0 Comments: ... [1]

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Mosque of Ibn Tulun · Girls At The Cairo National Stadium, A video. Further reading. Artemis Cooper, Cairo in the War, 1939-1945, Hamish Hamilton, ... [2]

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Girls at The Cairo National Stadium \ A video by Nimrod Kamer \ Egypt-Israel2006. Meadowhead Girls Football. ANB Soccer Academy - Coach Bassam. [3]

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Girls At The Cairo National Stadium. R. RC Egypt. S. Social Fund for Development (Egypt) · Categories: African countries | Middle Eastern countries ... [4] --Marina T. 04:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• The first link is a blurb on a NN blog, second and third are spammer-aggregators, they merely regurgitate the Wikipedia article GrAfFiT^{Talk Contribs} 11:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Changed to Keep It has been improved and no longer looks like a vanity (except for the stuff in my comment above). --DaveG12345 03:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Srong Keep were in the news at Egypt. Israeli alternative director and journalist. Shmila 16:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, non-notable. An article and web forum postings do not a controversy make. f(x)=ax²+bx+c 16:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Don't not let him fool you, this is really NN "movie". [5] --Haham hanuka 11:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • For someone who removes personal attacks, I would like to encourage you to improve your language as well. gidonb 18:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, do not mistake hot air on the Web for notability. Sandstein 07:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, I guess. It's a decent article, it appears to have generated a bit of buzz, and filmcruft is at least better than Pokemoncruft. Doubtful that it passes the 10-year test, but who knows. Herostratus 19:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.