The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 04:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I have tagged this article for deletion on the ground of violation of WP:NOR, the article is indeed an original research which aims at discovering communities to qualify under it under dubious grounds which has no acceptability elsewhere and tries to mislead readers in general. Ikon |no-blast

NOTE" See previous AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Forward Castes initiated by same nominator and closed as keep. Abecedare (talk) 01:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I created this AfD page after seeing the request by Ikonoblast at Talk:Forward class#Listed in AFD. I express no opinion on the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Clarify, please: does the notion of forward class or caste, as defined in the lead, exist in modern India? From a far it seems logical then if some groups get preferential treatment then the rest will identify themselves as something. NVO (talk) 21:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Abecedare (talk) 01:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Seems largeley OR. I have never come across the term "Forward Class" or "Forward Caste" in any government forms. If you do not fall under any affirmative action groups, the option is usually "General Category". Renaming may be an option instead of deleting. Reserving my vote till things become clearer.--Deepak D'Souza 02:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Forward class (also referred to as forward caste, or forward communities) are terms used regularly by Government of India, Supreme Court of India, and in Parliament of India [1]. Ditto for state governments, media, books, and scholarly literature. Indeed there is a Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment to deal with the forward class-backward class divide. Given its subject, there well may be OR and POV issues with the article, but as was pointed out in the previous AFD by the same nominator, an AFD is not the venue for dealing with them. Abecedare (talk) 02:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The article could use some editing, but it is referenced alright and a casual google search for both the article name and the redirect from move (an alternate name) is good enough to show notability. -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 03:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The forward class or caste is a well known term which is frequently used in Indian political, legal and administration circles. Shyamsunder (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete There is no such term exist in indian constitution. this is completely misguiding article.OR at least rename the pseudo term "forward class" to "general category".--Rxee (talk) 14:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the term Forward class is used every where in India to refer those ethnic groups who do not benefit for affirmative action. In fact, the term is as old as Hinduism itself, as it differentiates higher castes of Hinduism from lower castes. Government of India uses the category "Forward Caste/Class" in various household surveys and is currently planning to include caste, and there by FC in the 2011 census. 202.13.138.32 (talk) 16:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The category "Forward Caste" is used by Government, Media and various NGOs. No one is opposing to articles like Other Backward Classes or Scheduled Castes. Axxn (talk) 16:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I am seeing this term used widely throughout various TV channels every day and in newspapers. Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 12:32, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.