The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete/redirect. W.marsh 17:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Farewell, my Lovely (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Non-notable book; "Farewell, my Lovely" + "Susie Cornfield" gives 68 Ghits, which are booksellers. Article was created by SkeaterMedia whose only other edits have been starting other articles related to Susie Cornfield and her non-notable books. Crazysuit 02:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Is this title not better known as the title of a book by Raymond Chandler? BTLizard
  • I'm sure the estate of Raymond Chandler would be interested in this - I would assume such an iconic title is copyrighted? Crazysuit 05:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Titles can't be copyrighted in the US. Per [1]. --Charlene 05:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Nor in the UK. I think if Chandler's book isn't notable enough by itself to rate a separate article then this certainly isn't. So, delete. BTLizard 08:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • The Chandler is: it's at Farewell, My Lovely. This isn't. Delete (and check out SkeaterMedia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for simialr promo). Tearlach 09:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • OK, thanks. Still delete. BTLizard 09:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, again, as NN. Ford MF 06:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, an nn book. Lankiveil 12:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]
• Redirect to Farewell, My Lovely. The Cornfield book is non-notable, but someone might plausibly try to link to the Chandler with a lower-case "my". (I'm surprised to see that the Chandler article currently features a link to the Cornfield article, but not vice versa.) EALacey 17:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The nominations is based on the nominator's assertion that the Cornfield books are non-notable with no real demonstration why they are not. Citing Ghits is not relevant. The rest of the discussion about Chandler and his book is absolutely irrelevant to this discussion. It probably is a situation that the nomination is right for the wrong reason, but let’s follow procedure here and not get lazy. --Kevin Murray 18:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Pointing out that a book has received no discernible media attention is irrelevant? Ford MF 18:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Talking of "following procedure", maybe you should try that, Kevin Murray? If you, or anyone else, disagrees with my assertion that this book is not notable then it is up to you to prove it is notable. Of course, you won't be able to, which will show that my nomination is right, and for the right reasons. Crazysuit 00:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Ford MF and Crazysuit; a lack of Google hits is absolutely relevant to demonstrating a lack of notability. A lack of Google hits = a lack of reliable sources = lack of notability. Simple. Masaruemoto 05:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Article subject does not appear to meet WP:BK, as I can only find one (possibly) non-trivial mention of the book by a non-related party that isn't trying to sell the book and is geared to a general audience (a review in Fur & Feather). All other mentions of this book I can find are either by booksellers, publishers, or in blogs or the like. --Charlene 04:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Farewell, My Lovely, per EALacey and Charlene. I haven't been able to find anything else either. Fails WP:BK. I don't see any harm in keeping the history though, so I think I simply redirect would do the job (I guess in this case that's a mere technicality though). -- Seed 2.0 09:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete apparently self-published book: publishers web site only lists two books published to date and one due for publication soon, all three by the same author; publisher is based in Croydon and 192.com lists a Susan K. Cornfield as a resident of croydon[2]. Redirect per other users' suggestions. JulesH 16:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Susie Cornfield should probably be considered for deletion as well. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Queen's Prize and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Sticky Rock Café which are already being considered for deletion. JulesH 16:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Confirmed: the book's self-published. See [3] JulesH 17:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I agree, I'll nominate Susie Cornfield when these related afds have closed, unless anyone wants to do it before that. Crazysuit 00:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Lack of Google hits for any reliable sources shows this is non-notable. Masaruemoto 05:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep It's a book that's been published and when you claim it is non-notable, it features Jilly Cooper in the book and is also available on Amazon amongst other retailers. It's not an advertisement it's just an entry. The reviews are sourced and legit. SkeaterMedia 10:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.