The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 02:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Evenie Water Curling Club

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Long unreferenced article about local sports club with no significant claim to notability. Contested prod prevented previous deletion attempt. Sadads (talk) 10:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. — Meph^talk 16:39, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Curling/Article_Guidelines#Curling_clubs -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:39, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How does this club meet the guidelines? There is no references to show the coverage, and the article makes no claims as to meeting any of the other three numbered criteria. 23:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Delete This club does not meet the Wikiproject Curling notability guidelines by any measure I can see. I've found no references to the club hosting major events, having significant coverage for non-curling reasons, or any other aspect of the guidelines. Web searches return zero hits other than ones obviously spidering the wiki article itself. I'd love to have an article here, but I just don't see it as it stands. If someone is willing to step up and provide references, I'd be happy to reconsider my opinion 144.183.31.2 (talk) 14:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC) [reply]

~~sorry for the missed tag, the above was mine, didn't realize I wasn't logged in GormtheDBA (talk) 14:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

See below. After further research, I believe the club has enough Notability to satisfy under significant role in the expansion of the game, and significant coverage of modern events occurring. I retract my deletion vote in favor of a KEEP, at the very least pending article improvement.

REDIRECT Upon Second thought, the club is legitimate, and longstanding in Scotland, rather than a delete, I would propose a redirect to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_curling_clubs_in_Scotland, ideally with a hashtag to the area 9 section. I admit to being uncertain how to *do* that, but if someone who has the ability to do so did it, I wouldn't complain in the slightest.GormtheDBA (talk) 13:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion is Keep, i added two references. Mikeyandreality (talk) 19:47, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- DQ (t) (e) 22:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On further searching outside the googleverse, I have found several more references which should help meet WP:NOTABILITY, such as

http://www.arbroathherald.co.uk/news/local-headlines/curlers_enjoy_recent_cold_spell_1_193900 (discussing outdoor matches) and
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/curling/chapter7.htm (History of curling in Scotland, discussing this club as a base from which otehr clubs sprung)

as well as multiple listings on the RCCC page discussing historical events. Assuming the original article creator has no desire to handle this, I will update this page to incorporate them, and that should satisfy the needs of the WP. Give me some time though, I work well, just not fast GormtheDBA (talk) 17:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable enough. One of the sources I deleted was citing Wikipedia and the other source is the official website. Obviously advertising and marketing materials. So delete per WP:ORGIN. Kathryn.boast (talk) 01:26, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that this is used for advertising and marketing materials. Prayerfortheworld (talk) 05:40, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP I have added additional sources in, including records discussing the club's role in the expansion of the sport to Norway and external coverage of recent events as well. Perhaps this isn't the most notable article in Wikipedia, but it ain't the least, either. I believe it's Notable Enough GormtheDBA (talk) 20:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you're changing your mind, you should strike through the !vote that doesn't now apply. Peridon (talk) 22:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 20:09, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP and CLOSE DISCUSSIONGiven that at this time, no one has raised a legitimate Delete reason since most recent revision, addressing the one DELETE comment made by adding additional sources, I daresay there is NOT a consensus for delete, so since this has been relisted twice, I request this be closed and the page kept.173.73.162.10 (talk) 03:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, neglected to login before making that comment...GormtheDBA (talk) 03:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable enough. Peridon (talk) 09:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.