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The result was keep‎. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Estonian Association of Gerontology and Geriatrics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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PROD declined (courtesy @Aymatth2: ), but the issue isn't the quantity of sourcing, but rather the depth. I don't read Estonian, but nothing I can find online indicates depth required for WP:ORG for this small organization. Star Mississippi 01:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Companies, and Estonia. Star Mississippi 01:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Pray, Star Mississippi, in your pursuit for depth, have you ventured to employ Estonian search terms, or does your verdict rest on anglophone sources alone? I find reluctance in casting a 'delete' vote when linguistic comprehension, as is relevant here, appears limited. Jack4576 (talk) 10:54, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

as I noted when I PRODded it, there's also no sourcing in the Estonian article. I searched on Eesti Gerontoloogia ja Geriaatria Assotsiatsioon which brings up the same as English. Confirmation it exists but zero in depth. It does not appear to be a large organization that attracted attention in either language Star Mississippi 13:56, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The article is a bit out of date, but all the information is sourced, mostly from reliable independent sources. A web search on "Eesti Gerontoloogia ja Geriaatria Assotsiatsioon" gives plenty of hits. This one is typical. Not very exciting maybe, but a valid subject. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  There's no indication that the Estonian Nurses Union is independent of the Association since its constituents include nurses Star Mississippi 15:49, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some nurses involved in geriatric care will belong to both organizations, but that does not mean the Nurses Union is associated with EGGA. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I'd invoke WP:NOTPAPER. This is clearly an established professional body of a specific field in a small country, that is not the centre of any particular controversy. Thus it is unrealistic to expect there to be tons of articles online. There is indepth coverage, such as this article in Estonian Medical Journal, https://ojs.utlib.ee/index.php/EA/article/download/10703/5888/ discussing the role of the organization. See also p. 214, "In addition , the Estonian Association of Gerontology and Geriatrics ( EGGA ) has conducted several national and international surveys ( health and social services ; coping and well - being of the older population ) ." I find a number of other google books hits of studies using studies by EGGA as reference material. --Soman (talk) 20:30, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Per Soman. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:06, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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