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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Johnleemk | Talk 14:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Engineering Undergraduate Society of the University of British Columbia

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Vanity, NN. Delete Ardenn 23:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Unlike The Black Hand, the EUS is an official and significant organization at UBC and I think a page is justified. I've certainly seen pages on less substantial topics. Unfortunately the page doesn't seem very focused on what the EUS itself and more on Engineering traditions in Canada... TastyCakes 01:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no indication of notability. JoshuaZ 01:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The EUS has traditionally had a prominent (and often controversial) presence on the UBC campus. Their annual stunts during Engineering Week have attained [local], [national], and even [international] attention . I agree that the page needs substantial revisions - there are several sections here that would fit well into one or more separate articles about engineering. This particular article should be rewritten to better focus on the EUS itself. Ckatz 03:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It fails to establish why anyone outside of UBC would care about that, though. Ardenn 03:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If this were just about a typical student society, I might tend to agree with that assertion. And, to be fair, the article (in its current form) does little to establish a "reason to care". What is needed is a rewrite to focus on the aspects of the EUS that ARE noteworthy to readers outside of the UBC community. I think it is fair to say that the UBC EUS has established a certain international notoriety for itself over the years. Successfully planning, coordinating, and executing schemes to hijack the Rose Bowl trophy and hang Volkswagen Beetles from numerous locations including the Lions Gate Bridge (Vancouver) and the Golden Gate Bridge is, I think, worthy of an article. Ckatz 05:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. They are somewhat notable in Vancouver for their stunts (they occasionally hang cars or car frames from bridges), but you wouldn't know that from this article. This article discusses Rudyard Kipling and pre-war Canadian engineering pioneers. --maclean25 00:27, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete. 95% of the article says not a word why the society would be notable. Mukadderat 03:45, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It is an important society that is notable. Give the article a chance. --Mysterious UBC Student 06:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Ckatz. The section on 'the cheeze factory' needs a major overhaul, but at this stage that wouldn't appear to be reason to delete. Mostlyharmless 02:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article may require upgrading, but EUS is a big part of UBC, and UBC is an important university in Canada. EUS is fairly large and remains influential in many UBC matters. Deleting the article would neglect the importance of student organizations.Shambles
Keep It is one of the largest and influential societies, that has done stunts that are as notable worldwide at their time as an internet meme is now. Being one of the largest Canadian University, with way more students than Harvard, should be able to have its notable and important societies listed on Wikipedia. It's at least as notable as a residence of Harvard. Allowing Harvard Glee Clubs and Residence Halls but not organisations with thousands of members at the major Western Canadian University would show systematic bias, which Wikipedia should avoid. --Nick Dillinger 07:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.