The result was keep. Sandstein 05:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The whole thing appears to be yet another crank theory by a non-physicist who allowed misconceptions of physics get the better of him. Read the article for a good laugh. 99% of the refs are cranky, personal, unpublished papers. Watch for doozies like "topological geometro dynamic theory" and "solitonic singularity formation." Dmitry Brant (talk) 20:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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something about anesthesia. I have also corresponded with Persinger in the past and I think this is one of those areas where fMRI may not have proven anything yet ( or course you may have seen the Vul Voodoo papers LOL on a related topic). As you probably know, brain-independent mind would make it possible for things like spirits and ghosts and an origin of conscioness theory would go a long way towards proving something about religion( is there a soul?). What is interesting of course is that the article needs to document the known state of knowledge about an obviously open and controversial issue. There are plenty of theories, and maybe they are all fringe. Everyone who thinks has some theories. I wouldn't scrap it based just on some passing refs I noted as AFAIK these are credible but I wouldn't throw out an article on cold fusion quickly either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerdseeksblonde (talk • contribs) 00:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
this case, when dealing with something new and confusing, it is possible you need to start with the pompous until you get a better understanding. In particular, solitons and nonlinear phenomena look like a good place to look- either for real emergent traits, real consciousness, or pretenders and false starts. If you concede these are all fringe theories, but yet notable and maybe even eventually a step along the way, I'm not sure I would worry too much about merit. If a wiki reader can use this as a starting point, even to see how bad the field is,that is the job of an encyclopedia ( without actually being a review article maybe). Also note, related to merit, are coo-coo clocks intelligent social creatures? Afterall, Entrainment_(physics) . My point being that small nonlinear effects can produce things that are macroscopically notable and many people never get past the first Taylor term...
Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 12:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
to be wrong? There is a wiki entry on it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_generation , because it is notable and in retrospect everyone can rationalize "gee, how could these people distort the evidence enough to believe this stuff" but at the time deductive logic hadn't gotten there to inform those silly people. Or even alchemy or astrology? When you don't have a periodic table, you have confusing observations and jargon- even think about particle wave duality - does this make sense? So, to make a point on consciousness, " just who the heck do you think you are ?" LOL... Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 11:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]