The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Nomination withdrawn. the_undertow ^talk 23:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eien no Uta

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"Nakashima Mika will be return again in the fall with a new single, titled 永遠の詩 (Eien no Uta), to be released on 2007.10.3.!!". Unencyclopedic pronouncement, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, no references. Delete unless cleaned up. - Mike Rosoft 07:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, cleaned up and confirmed the release date from Sony Music's website. cab 08:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. cab 09:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE Still violates WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NOTINHERITED. The singer MIGHT be notable and the movie that is going to use the song as the theme song MIGHT be notable, but neither one of those facts confers notability on the as yet unreleased song. See also WP:SPAM. OfficeGirl 08:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, the notability comes from the news coverage already cited in the article. cab 09:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - But the citations link to articles that are not in English. How are we to verify that the coverage is substantially about the song, and not about the singer or the movie. I got all "????" when I opened the linked pages, but even then they appeared to be short articles. OfficeGirl 09:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - How are we to verify? By making sure this debate is seen by Japanese speakers, such as myself or people who watch the Japan deletion sorting page, where I've listed this article. As for your question mark issues, you may need to install a Japanese font and set your encoding to Shift JIS. cab 10:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - Please set forth the name of the article, what the article says and the length of the article for each of the sources listed on the Talk page of the article. Also explain what entity is publishing the article (magazine, webzine, press release on company site, etc.) Thanks in advance for your help.OfficeGirl 10:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – per WP:BAND#Albums. The notability of the artist is in no way questionable. She has had multiple #1 albums in Japan. WP:CRYSTAL deals with things which are not confirmed, not things which are yet to occur. This release is confirmed. Just 16,000 Ghits for her name and the song title in Japanese, including [1], from Mainichi Shimbun's online site. Neier 13:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, a few things. I am not arguing against the singer's notability, but we cannot confirm whether the album itself will become notable. WP:BAND#Albums states that we should not have an article that is little more than a track listing. And I suspect the references cited are more about the singer and less about the album than the Japanese speakers have let on. G-hits do not confer notability-- they can be just the result of a very good paid marketing program. I wouldn't oppose a MERGE to the singer at this time, with no prejudice against re-creation. And as for the Japanese-only sources-- wouldn't it be a great idea for the English speaking readers of Wikipedia to be able to verify what is being said here on English Wikipedia? Anyhow, I don't see proof that this can become more than a stub with the currently published information, and it may be a flop (that's where WP:CRYSTAL comes in). That means delete or merge and redirect to the singer. OfficeGirl 17:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article has been cleaned up; I am withdrawing my nomination, but do not vote "keep" due to a lack of knowledge on this topic. - Mike Rosoft 14:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.