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The result was keep. A discussion on moving the article can happen after this AfD. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Daniel Stacey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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not notable - he played 3 games some time ago, no sources say he's notable because of something else Artem.G (talk) 19:59, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete (as nominator) Artem.G (talk) 06:25, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for all the usual obvious reasons - we are a global encyclopaedia, not an Anglosphere one alone, &c. - but would accept a Redirect to a relevant list (if there is one) as an alternative. RobinCarmody (talk) 20:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- This is probably going to end in delete unless someone can find something out about his wider career. He played for Old Wykehamists against Old Etonians in one of the his three first-class matches, but the earliest proper register of Winchester that I can access starts in the 1830s, so that's no help. He appears to have played a match for Old Etonians as well, so I checked the Eton School List but he doesn't seem to appear in that, so he probably was a Winchester man. There are no notes on any of the scorecards about him, and his final first-class match was in a decidedly lower-quality side and only scrapped into fc status because of Ward's double century - it really has no business as a fc match at all.
- All of which is not particularly helpful. I can't find anything obviously notable about him elsewhere straight off the bat, so it may well be that he's not awfully notable - but then chaps who were with MCC and who went to Winchester or similar schools do have a habit of turning up somewhere or other. I just can't find him just now - the chap who was a fellow at Magdalan, Oxford is a century too early.
- I'll keep looking, and other might also, so I wouldn't suggest an overly hasty close here.
- The nomination itself here worries me slightly however - when he played doesn't matter really. The fact that the matches he played in were a little iffy might matter a little more. The fact that he didn't play for the sorts of teams that generally we'd be looking for to suggest notability matters a little more again. The fact that we don't appear to have much in the way of sourcing and little right not to meet GNG matters much more. It's perhaps a shame that the nomination doesn't say *that*. Blue Square Thing (talk) 23:30, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Having said all that ^, there's an obvious redirect target, so
Redirect to List of English cricketers (1787–1825) (see below) under the usual WP:PRESERVE etc... This will allow anyone to get back the minimal details on the page if required and is a cheap alternative to deletion. @RobinCarmody: in case you want to consider that. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of English cricketers (1787–1825) Finding sourcing on this subject may be difficult due to the era the subject played in, however BST tends to be quite good at finding sources on players from this era, and if he is struggling it is likely there's probably not a lot on him. There's a couple of other cricket editors who may well be able to help and do a bit of digging, but if nothing can be found redirect is a suitable alternative to deletion. Keep StickyWicket has found suitable sourcing which I now believe shows enough for a GNG pass. If we can find out which is the correct spelling it may also help find further sourcing. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 08:48, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]- Keep. Per Alumni Oxoniensis, he appears to have had a long and quite notable association in a religious and teaching capacity with the University of Oxford. Should be plenty of room to expand this guy, I will put him on my to-do list (once I've finished some essay writing). Because a player played some games years ago also isn't a valid reason to delete. I've struck the nominators 'delete' vote as the nomination counts as one vote, no need to add another. StickyWicket (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, good job - his name being spelled without the e in AO foxed me for a bit and I wonder how much else there is without it. I'm happy to keep on this basis - the source is here if anyone wants a look - look for the name without the e. Given that there's a memorial in the church at Hornchurch also without the e I'd think that a page move is probably appropriate as well. Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:00, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per recent findings and move to Daniel Stacy if that is the majority spelling. With the large number of bad nominations we have had lately, especially of footballers, I must also take issue with this one because
he played 3 games some time ago, no sources say he's notable because of something else
is, apart from anything else, incomprehensible. NGS Shakin' All Over 21:57, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per above discussion. JoyStick101 (talk) 05:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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